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    Default How to identify a Xsara VTS steering rack? arghh!!

    Last year i purchased a VTS rack from a fellow Brisbane AF member and now that is on the car i have found that it has 3.1/4 turns lock to lock when it should have a 2.6.
    Interestingly i put up a stock standard 306 rack and it was exactly the same fit and fitted the 205 perfectly....it also had 3.25 turns lock to lock.
    So i am in the midst of finding the hi and lo hoses for a VTS rack when i may be searching for the incorrect rack if you follow me..... i could have a standard Xsara rack sold to me thus chasing incorrect parts.

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    The question is.....how can i tell if it the rack is the real VTS one just by looking at it ??? [note: there are no hoses on it ]
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    It will have push type fittings as opposed to a screw in type for the hose connections as far as i know.

    My xsara rack does anyway.

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    Thanks for that Cam....yes mine has push type fittings as well.....but how does one know if the standard 306 or Xsara VTR ones dont have push fittings also ??? I am trying to ascertain if i have been sold a pup !!
    Once i have confirmed that it is actually a genuine VTS rack i can then start the hard task of finding the 2 hoses for it :{

    Also what is throwing me off is that it has 3.25 turns not 2.6.
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    Alternatively Si racks have 2.75 and it makes a big difference over the 3.25 in the 309, I was running out of steering (couldn't turn the wheel fast enough) at the Autocross the other day.
    It is leaking as well so will fit an Si rack soon.
    S3 205 seem to be 2.9?


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    Thanks for that Cam....yes mine has push type fittings as well.....but how does one know if the standard 306 or Xsara VTR ones dont have push fittings also ??? I am trying to ascertain if i have been sold a pup !!
    Once i have confirmed that it is actually a genuine VTS rack i can then start the hard task of finding the 2 hoses for it :{

    Also what is throwing me off is that it has 3.25 turns not 2.6.

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    But what beats me is....it looks like a VTS rack....it has the same type of push on connections like a VTS....but it has 3.25 turns ????
    Go figure !!
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    VTR Rack? Have you got the ram attached when you're testing the number of turns?

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    The rack came out of a wrecked silver vts, its engine went into a tappy gti6 that had a belt done by a "specialist." Give me a call if you have any more questions.
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    Wasn't the 2.6 rack only on the N6 VTS-the one with the rectangular front lights? The N7 was around 3.2(ish).
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    Quote Originally Posted by James504 View Post
    The rack came out of a wrecked silver vts, its engine went into a tappy gti6 that had a belt done by a "specialist." Give me a call if you have any more questions.
    Thats great to hear that James....appreciated !! I suppose you wouldnt have any hoses for it would you....would solve a lot of hassles.
    Also why do you think its showing 3.2 turns ...any tips :} Could we be doing something wrong to get the 3.2 turns but i dont think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgti6 View Post
    Wasn't the 2.6 rack only on the N6 VTS-the one with the rectangular front lights? The N7 was around 3.2(ish).
    As far as i am aware the series 1 [not sold in OZ ] had 2.4 turns and the later series 2 had 2.6 turns....but i maybe wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    VTR Rack? Have you got the ram attached when you're testing the number of turns?
    Yes, ram is attached Bluey :}
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    Dredging up an old thread... I found out that quaife make quick rack for the 306 which might be an easier route than trying to hunt down the correct VTS rack.
    But they have two versions: spline drive and flat drive
    http://www.ecosse-peugeot.co.uk/show...d=4504&appid=4
    How can one tell which is the correct without pulling the car apart? This would be going into a phase 2 1997 Gti6

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    I think you will fine the Xsara rack has the same 2.6 turns as the 306. How many turns lock to lock is the 306?

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    From everything i read 306 has 3.1 turns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
    How can one tell which is the correct without pulling the car apart? This would be going into a phase 2 1997 Gti6
    Why can't you just use an Si rack?

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    As in 205 Si? Never knew they are the same. Is this rack "quicker"?
    Thw quaife piece is specifically for a 306 and should work a treat. Would make steering a bunch faster. All I need to work out is which one to take, spline or flat

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    Read the opening post. I didn't know they were the same either. The Si rack is splined.

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    I know the wereabouts of a 2:1 rack, without PS. Genuine Peugeotsport. But its big dollars.

    "Peugeot Sport in UK had some special built 2.1 turn quick racks manufactured in the days of Richard Burns. This is one of them. I managed to buy it when the factory in Coventry closed. It's used as was fitted to my car, it was rebuilt professionally every year. It cost me $4000 equivalent, very regretted sale but needs to be used, not sat on a shelf. Open to respectable offers."
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    That is some serious dollars!
    I'll just get a quaife one and keep the change

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    Si is 2.75
    Xsara Vts S2 is 2.6 turns with a square drive and press fit hydraulic lines
    Xsara Vts S1 is 2.4 turns

    Xsara one should be easier to come buy and cheaper.

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