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    Default 6-cyl Gordini Ford

    Found this question elsewhere... thought it might be interesting:

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    I am looking for more information about the french 1954 Ford Comete with a 2.5 L 6 cyl. Gordini engine (type 30) mentioned in Robert Jarraud "Les Gordini" book, page 71.

    I would be curious to know from which Ford dealership the car was bought from and, also, if the car still exists.

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    I have no doubt nobody here could answer the specific questions, but what about the car... does anyone have details?

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    Default 6 cyl Gordini, Ford?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
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    I have no doubt nobody here could answer the specific questions, but what about the car... does anyone have details?
    Ray,
    As you and other Simcaphiles would know the Comete was a product of the French Ford organisation. Sold to the general public with a V8 engine.
    The Comete in question would have possibly been a one off.

    In Serge Bellu's book "Blue Blood" are chapters on Amedee Gordini's racing cars. With a change in the formula from 2 litre to 2.5 litre Gordini had to simply? change the crankshaft and the liners on his 2 litre 6 cyl engine, the head was the same for both. The engine is described as having two camshafts with short rockers. An accompanying photo shows a layout similar in appearance to most Gordini engines apart from it being a 6 cyl.

    All this was during the year 1954. I wonder if this was the engine fitted to the Comete ?
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    No doubt this was the one, beesty...

    The car looks somewhat small for a V8. I suppose it was in the Vedette line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
    No doubt this was the one, beesty...

    The car looks somewhat small for a V8. I suppose it was in the Vedette line?
    I think the bodies were built by Facel.
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    2x Ford Comete by Facel 1954 One serious-one fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
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    I have no doubt nobody here could answer the specific questions, but what about the car... does anyone have details?
    It could be possible that the car was fitted with an Gordini engine, but the serieproduced Ford Comete had the small 2.2l V8 from Ford Vedette. It's hard to tell wether it's a Comete or a Comete Monte Carlo, the only differences is in the front (Monte Carlo has a different grill, like in the picture of the black one posted here, and a small fake air scope on the hood).

    It's most likely to be a regular Comete, mostly because they where most common. But also because Comete Monte Carlo often had wirewheels and two toned paint.

    The Monte Carlo has a sidevalve 3.9l (240cui) V8 (as used in Vedette Vendome, and of course in a bunch of Ford V8's)
    Chassis is from Ford Vedette, body by Facel Metalon (before they became Facel-Vega and started making complete cars). It's easy to see the resemblance to the early Facel-Vegas, and the other cars they made the body for (Simca 8 and 9, Bentley MK VI Facel Metallon Coupé)

    It has a four speed Pont-A-Mousson manual gearbox, earlier used in trucks (later on Chrysler 300 and Facel-Vega could also be equiped with them) the gearbox is said to handle over 500bhp without trouble (The Comete Monte Carlo has 105bhp)

    All the bumpers, door handles, listwork etc is stainless steel.

    Can't help you with what dealer they where bought from, mine was sold new in Stockholm, Sweden. Imported by me to Norway in 1995
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    The black Car is the Bentley Mark VI Coupe, body by Facel (hard to tell from the angle on Comete picture, but the two cars is actualy quite similar

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    Thanks for your interest... maybe, therefore, you can give us some further information...

    Elsewhere on this forum, a week or more ago, there was a thread about a Simca-built military vehicle which used a Ford V8 of 4.2 litres.

    This led to a chase where we found that these engines were still built in Canada until the eighties or nineties. But what I'd like to know was whether or not they were actually built in France as well... as the V8-60 was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboJens
    Can't help you with what dealer they where bought from, mine was sold new in Stockholm, Sweden. Imported by me to Norway in 1995
    Lucky man!!! And thanks for the information.

    I'm amazed at the information that becomes available on this forum. Thanks for those who contributed here - a range I knew next to nothing about. Before Froggy Forum, I thought I knew a bit about French cars, but I'm very humble now....

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