my 205 mi16 rally car project.

jew086 · Mar 6, 2011

As the title say's im building a 205 gti rally car with a mi16 motor, custom rear suspension and tunnel.

The motor is stock, the gear box has a mixture of be1 and be3 ratio's, and will be getting a tran x LSD.

The aim is to make the car as light and strong as possible. It is being built in my garage
with help from my step dad (rally).
The car is being built by us including the painting once finished.

Anyway i wont bore you with talk here are some pics of the progress so far.

BIGRR · Mar 6, 2011

Looking Good

Keep us up with the progress.

spar · Mar 7, 2011

jew086 said:
Anyway i wont bore you with talk here are some pics of the progress so far.

well yeah pics are good, but it's ok, bore us with talk

this seems quite hard core - nice - excuse my ignorance but i dont understand the replacing the tunnel, it didnt look like you were putting in 4wd in other shots.

DjB8V · Mar 7, 2011

Thats proper brave of you changing the rear suspension for something custom.

What have you got in mind?

Chris

jew086 · Mar 7, 2011

spar said:
well yeah pics are good, but it's ok, bore us with talk

this seems quite hard core - nice - excuse my ignorance but i dont understand the replacing the tunnel, it didnt look like you were putting in 4wd in other shots.

The tunel was replaced sso that there is more clearence around the exhaust if i ever need to take it out in a hurry. and to try keep everything as hogh up as possible.

GRAHAM WALLIS · Mar 7, 2011

jew086 said:
As the title say's im building a 205 gti rally car with a mi16 motor, custom rear suspension and tunnel.

The motor is stock, the gear box has a mixture of be1 and be3 ratio's, and will be getting a tran x LSD.

The aim is to make the car as light and strong as possible. It is being built in my garage
with help from my step dad (rally).
The car is being built by us including the painting once finished.

Anyway i wont bore you with talk here are some pics of the progress so far.

Looking at the positioning of the rear strut towers seems it will have a much wider track?
Graham

jew086 · Mar 7, 2011

DjB8V said:
Thats proper brave of you changing the rear suspension for something custom.

What have you got in mind?

Chris

the rear suspension i am using is 205si front struts hubs and brakes so its going to be fully adjustable (toe, camber) and its aslo way lighter than the rear beem.

jew086 · Mar 7, 2011

GRAHAM WALLIS said:
Looking at the positioning of the rear strut towers seems it will have a much wider track?
Graham

it will have the same track as the front.

PugMonkey · Mar 7, 2011

Maaaaate,

That is one mofo of a job your doing - Looks Great. Keep posting pics, we all love pics.

Moo

tcusack · Mar 7, 2011

Since Andy is involved, I know it will be properly thought through, and legal, but I must say I'm surprised. What events will it be run in, and what as?

Tim

GRAHAM WALLIS · Mar 7, 2011

tcusack said:
Since Andy is involved, I know it will be properly thought through, and legal, but I must say I'm surprised. What events will it be run in, and what as?

Tim

Will be OK for AMSAG, might have problems with CAMS road events.
Not as way out as the V6 engined early model Laser I saw recently with corflute flooring, perspex and plastic everything, no windscreen and no cage, now that is light! This was being run in an autocross. Was built by a Ford engineer so maybe he knew what he was doing.
My somewhat more conservative 205 has its rally debut soon, shake down run in a Khanacross yesterday saw some impressive speed, not that I will be repeating this in the rally I still have a lot to learn about FWD on rally roads.
Casnell's 205 also makes a return soon, good to see a few gravel 205s coming on the scene.
Graham

Isis · Mar 7, 2011

cool project, nice cage. Keep the pics and comment coming.

PeterT · Mar 7, 2011

Awesome..... Andy C?

doff · Mar 7, 2011

Do u have any cad drawings of the rear suspension set up?

DjB8V · Mar 7, 2011

jew086 said:
the rear suspension i am using is 205si front struts hubs and brakes so its going to be fully adjustable (toe, camber) and its aslo way lighter than the rear beem.

Interesting. I would have thought it would have been better to start with GTI gear rather Si gear to make adjustable. Same goes for the Si rear.

Learn something new every day.

Goodluck with it all.

Chris

tcusack · Mar 7, 2011

I think if I was going to this much trouble with the back end, I would have fitted wishbones, for a truly adjustable set up.

The struts will still have some of the problems of the trailing arms - i.e. 1:1 camber gain with roll. However, you will be able to set some static negative camber, and adjust the toe.

I have never been involved in anything where these changes would be allowed, hence haven't done much other than conceptual work on this, but the wishbones shouldn't be too hard.

Good luck,

Tim

GRAHAM WALLIS · Mar 7, 2011

DjB8V said:
Interesting. I would have thought it would have been better to start with GTI gear rather Si gear to make adjustable. Same goes for the Si rear.

Learn something new every day.

Goodluck with it all.

Chris

Front has been left as GTi, Si struts in rear only?
Graham

jew086 · Mar 7, 2011

Yeah the front is still gti, the rear is made from si as it is lighter and easyer to make fit, due to the lower control arm has the sway bar/stabiliser built into it.

I am also putting a cabel shift and getting rid of the gear linkages.

My plan is to run it in the 2wd masters, and AMSAG.

Rally · Mar 8, 2011

doff said:
Do u have any cad drawings of the rear suspension set up?

Only if you are telepathic .

But there are a few measurements written on the wall of the shead.

jew086 · Mar 11, 2011

a few more pics of bracing to the front towers. and into the engine bay from inside.

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