306 Brake Upgrade Thread

I have put together a run down of the commonly used brake upgrades for 306 S16?s and GTI6?s. The information below has come from various sources, and the prices shown are only those current on the Autospeed web site at the time of writing. Before making any purchase, make sure you check with the relevant application charts that you have the correct item.

Brake Pads

EBC Street Kevlar - OEM Replacement
- Upgrades brake performance by 10-20%, friction coefficient of 0.4
- Good initial bite
- Good friction consistency of up to 400 degrees
- Low disc abrasion as a result of Kevlar formulation
- Low dust formula - great for alloy wheels
- Low vibration - smooth operation


EBC Green Stuff
- Friction co-efficient of 0.5
- Excellent initial bite resulting in instant response?no warmup needed
- Class-leading fade resistance on the street?heat stable to a blistering 650°C
- Extremely low disc abrasion?due to high Kevlar content
- Low dust formula ? great for alloy wheels
- Low vibration?smooth operation


Applications (Prices are per set of 4 pads)

306 S16 2.0 16v 93-95

Front
Street Kevlar DP 1080(G) $94.55
Green Stuff DP 2687 $133.10


Rear
Street Kevlar DP 458/2 $65.95
Green Stuff DP 2458/2 $93.50



306 2.0 GTi-6 96-2001

Front
Street Kevlar DP 1047(G) $89.10
Green Stuff DP 21047 $146.30


Rear
Street Kevlar DP 458/2 $65.95
Green Stuff DP 2458/2 $93.50



Brake Rotors (Prices are per rotor)

EBC Standard Brake Rotor (D)



If a sport type upgrade is not for you, then EBC has a huge range of standard replacement rotors to suit most European and Japanese cars.

As with the performance rotors, each EBC Standard rotor is made in the EEC from European castings and goes through x-ray inspection. Vented rotors are also dynamically balanced.

EBC Turbo Groove Brake Discs (GD)

The EBC Turbo Groove "GD" series are designed as a sport upgrade for standard street going vehicles.

The "GD" series is signified by a three spot drilling pattern and a wide aperture full width slot. These slots (grooves) help deglaze pads, reduce fade, promote parallel pad wear, and improve brake performance. Because the grooves extend to the outer diameter of the disc, they allow better exit of dirt, rust, dust, grit, water and any other contaminants that may get between the pad and the disc surface. Grooves that stop short can capture these contaminants.

The three blind holes drilled in EBC Turbo Groove series are to further break down gas film in between the slots but are not through drilled to prevent the chance of stress cracks.

Machined in the EEC from high quality European steel castings, each EBC Turbo Groove rotor is x-ray inspected and the vented types are dynamically balanced. They also have a zinc plate and gold passivate finish to improve cosmetic appearance and prevent corrosion on areas not swept by pads.Available for most European and Japanese cars, they are great option for a high performance brake disc with the added bonus of a great appearance.


EBC Trackday Groove Disc (TGD)



The Trackday Groove (TGD) series are the newest rotors in the EBC lineup. Made from a new high quality lightweight alloy they are designed to run up to 800/900 degrees centigrade. This makes them the ultimate disc for light race, rally, track day, as well as a sport upgrade for standard street going vehicles.

Other than a new alloy, the TGD series also feature a four spot drilling pattern (up from three) and a reduction in wide aperture full width slots (from 8 to 5). The slots (grooves) help deglaze pads, reduce fade, promote parallel pad wear, and improve brake performance. Because the grooves extend to the outer diameter of the disc, they allow better exit of dirt, rust, dust, grit, water and any other contaminants that may get between the pad and the disc surface. Grooves that stop short can capture these contaminants. The four blind holes drilled in EBC TGD series are to further break down gas film in between the slots but are not "through drilled" to prevent the chance of stress cracks.

Machined in the EEC from high quality European steel castings, each EBC TGD rotor is x-ray inspected and the vented types are dynamically balanced. They also have a zinc plate and gold passivate finish (image shows disc without finish) to improve cosmetic appearance and prevent corrosion on areas not swept by pads. Available for most European and Japanese cars, they are great option for a high performance brake disc with the added bonus of a great appearance.


Applications

306 S16 2.0 16v 93-95

Front - 266mm Diameter, 20mm Thickness
Standard ? D 311 $97.90 ea
Track Day ? TDG 311 $214.50 ea

Rear - 248mm Diameter, 8mm Thickness
Standard ? D 615 $69.30 ea
Turbo Groove ? GD615 $121.50 ea


306 2.0 GTi-6 96-2001

Front - 266mm Diameter, 20mm Thickness
Standard ? D 612 $132.00 ea
Track Day ? TDG 612 $214.50 ea

Rear - 248mm Diameter, 8mm Thickness
Standard ? D 615 $69.30 ea
Turbo Groove ? GD 615 $121.50ea


DBA Longlife Slotted Rotor



- Unidirectional slotting (left and right), to increase pad bite, reduce fade and deliver exceptional braking performance.
- Slots continually de-glaze the brake pads, improving efficiency and reducing rotor scoring. - They even out-wear across the brake pad faces, increasing the effective contact area and extending rotor life.
- Slots help dissipate water when driving in poor weather, as well as pump away dust and dirt.
- Slotting also combats "out-gassing", where gas (from the pad bonding agents) can form a cushion between pad and rotor, greatly reducing braking power.
- Provide a cost effective solution to improve the stopping performance of vehicles which are "under-braked" (such as many large four-wheel drives)

Applications

306 S16 2.0 16v 93-95

Front - 266mm Diameter, 20.5mm Thickness
DBA No. 274 $137.21ea

Rear - 246.5mm Diameter, 8mm Thickness
DBA No. 276 (Price unknown)

306 2.0 GTi-6 96-2001

Front - 283mm Diameter, 20mm Thickness
DBA No. 274 (Price unknown)

Rear - 246.5mm Diameter, 8mm Thickness
DBA No. 276 (Price unknown)


Brake Fluid

The table below shows the MINIMUM wet and dry boiling points for DOT 2, 3, 4, and 5 brake fluid in degrees fahrenheit. The DOT 2 spec is for drum brakes and is obsolete. If you have any DOT 2 in your garage, throw it away! DOT 5 is for silicone brake fluid. Silicone brake fluid (DOT 5) should be avoided because it is not compatible with regular brake fluid, it is hard to pour without introducing bubbles and thus results in soft pedal feel, and moisture still gets into your system and will pool in low areas like your callipers and encourage rapid corrosion as DOT 5 does not absorb water as do DOT ¾. Unless you want to replace your fluid after every race meeting, or at longest, every month, stay away. Further explanation can be read HERE


EBC BF370+ Brake Fluid $32.95


A high quality DOT3,4 Glycol brake fluid with a dry boiling point of 307C. Great for use in fast road cars or race cars. 500ml bottle

EBC Dot 5 Silicone Brake Fluid $38.45
For race use only. Not compatible with normal Glycol brake fluid. 250ml bottle


Neo Racing Gold Brake Fluid (High Performance) 500ml - $29.36 1L - $54.07


NEO Racing Gold Series Glycol Ether and Borate Ester synthetic based brake fluid blend. Provides better, more consistent brake fluid properties, with reduced brake degradation under extreme temperatures. A high level boiling point provides a low vapour rate, reduces the possibility of vapour lock in the braking system. It is also half as compressible as silicone-type brake fluids, even when heated. Less compressibility of brake fluid will increase pedal feel. NEO RGS brake fluid meets and far exceeds the following specifications:
U.S. FMVSS No.116 DOT: 3 / 4
SAE: J1703, ISO: 4925
Dry Boiling Point (Not-fictitious rating) 298°C
Wet Boiling point (Not-fictitious rating) 149°C.



Links
DBA www.dba.com.au
DBA online catalogue

EBC www.ebcbrakes.com.au
EBC Rotor Application Chart
EBC Pad Appplication Chart



Autospeed www.autospeed.com

Good gear this stuff, I have the rotors and pads on my 306, the pads don't fade when they get hot like standard peugeot pads do, and the rotors dont warp from constant abuse.
They are actually cheaper the original peugeot gear!

The pads on the front are DP 2458/2
The pads on the rear are DP 21234(The box will say their for the 206Gti)

To date I haven't had a problem with them, the other good thing is no brake dust.

Any probs with putting these after-market items on a car still under warranty?
(RS Clio)

nate said:

Any probs with putting these after-market items on a car still under warranty?
(RS Clio)

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I don't see why it would cause any grief, if the pads go they need replacing, if the rotors go they need replacing.
I may be mistaken, warranty doesn't cover perisable item anyway.
Dont take this as being it, that's the way I see it and the way I had it explained to me.

nate said:

Any probs with putting these after-market items on a car still under warranty?
(RS Clio)

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Shouldn't have a problem as they are a wear and tear item.
i deal with the issue first hand

Anyone reccomend a place in Sydney where i can purchuse these greenstuff pads....
i have 1000kms left on my original pug ones...and i'd rather put these on than another set of those squeky pug pads...

Check the Autospeed website. I have found their prices easily compete with anyone else. Mine took 3 days for delivery.

MR206 said:

Anyone reccomend a place in Sydney where i can purchuse these greenstuff pads....
i have 1000kms left on my original pug ones...and i'd rather put these on than another set of those squeky pug pads...

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Be careful about running these on OEM discs, they're quite harsh. You're best off getting some new rotors and bed in the new rotors with OEM pads for 1000kms or so, then switch to Greenstuffs.

Doa search on brakes in Performance upgrades, as we've talking about the bedding in process before

Mr 206,

check your email

cheers,

Joey

MR206 said:

Anyone reccomend a place in Sydney where i can purchuse these greenstuff pads....
i have 1000kms left on my original pug ones...and i'd rather put these on than another set of those squeky pug pads...

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Brake pro Parra , instock over the counter in seconds trade prices..

also know as Parramatta brake and clutch..

Hope this is of some help.

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You might be able to get the pads cheaper than that. I picked up a set of EBC greenstuff for the rears for my 01 206gti a month ago for $80 (from the EBC distributor in melbourne).

And i've had absolutely no problems with them. Much better than the original pads on the car.

luan

Hey ppl, i went to brake pro 2day to get a quote for Greenstuff pads for my 206.

Pads Front: $215
Pads Rear: $175
Sub Total: $390
GST: $39
Total: $429

All that includes labour for the installation of the pads. Is this a good price? or is it too expensive?

MR206 said:

Hey ppl, i went to brake pro 2day to get a quote for Greenstuff pads for my 206.

Pads Front: $215
Pads Rear: $175
Sub Total: $390
GST: $39
Total: $429

All that includes labour for the installation of the pads. Is this a good price? or is it too expensive?

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That is waaay to expensive. when i first got the front and rears back in '01, it was $235 for front and rears. When i returned last december for the rears, the guy quoted me around $95 for the pair, i commented offhand how they were about $80 when i got them two years ago and $95 sounded about right ... and so he said that i could have them for $80! (All incl gst) It then cost me another $80 to get them installed and the rear discs machined.

I'd be asking around elsewhere if i were you.

lucin said:

That is waaay to expensive. when i first got the front and rears back in '01, it was $235 for front and rears. When i returned last december for the rears, the guy quoted me around $95 for the pair, i commented offhand how they were about $80 when i got them two years ago and $95 sounded about right ... and so he said that i could have them for $80! (All incl gst) It then cost me another $80 to get them installed and the rear discs machined.

I'd be asking around elsewhere if i were you.

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That might actually be the labour that is expensive. It didn't seem too difficult a job replacing the pads (though of course i don't have a brake machining thingy). just need the right tools (there's a funny shaped one to compress the parking brake piston i think). From your quote labout to fit it would have been around $95 (175-80). might be worth your time and effort.

Brake Fluid?

i understand that like all fluids this needs to be topped up...

How often is it changed?

Is it a pretty hard thing? bleeding etc?

if i upgrade the pads or rotors do i need to replace the fluid to a different grade?

You do not have to change the fluid though it's advisable too. I just did a full change to Castrol Dot4+, only $10 for a bottle.

Do yourself a favor, buy a self bleeding tube from Supercheap Auto. They are about $20 from memory. You place one end on the bleed nipple and secure it with the clip which comes with it, loosen the nipple by about 1/2 a turn and pump the brake while keeping an eye on the fluid level in the resivour. You want to try to flush as much of the old stuff out as possible so watch the colour of the fluid coming out the tube. It will probably be brown-black. Keep going until it is fairly clear, about the same as the new stuff.

You have to also bleen in an order, most likely LR, RR, LF, RF. If you have ABS you will probably use the whole 500ml bottle up in a full bleed, but it makes a huge difference to the brake feel. If you are unsure about any of this, get a mechanic to do it as brakes are one thing you do not want to go wrong.

nate said:

Brake Fluid?

i understand that like all fluids this needs to be topped up...

How often is it changed?

Is it a pretty hard thing? bleeding etc?

if i upgrade the pads or rotors do i need to replace the fluid to a different grade?

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unless you have a leak in which case you should fix it you should never ever have to top up your brake fluid
the reason behind this is as the brake pads wear the level drops and if you top it up and the brakes wear the rest of the way down you then turn around and take the old pads out and push the pistons back. this results in the fluid level then rising and can come back out and spill out.
brake fluid should be changed every two years.

pugrambo said:

brake fluid should be changed every two years.

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Depends on your driving style, and kms done in a particular year.

Glycol based fluids can last for a year or two with no problems. But DOT5 silicon based fluids should be changed more often. Whatever you do not mix glycol and silicon based fluids together.

I had to change my Nulon DOT4+ after only 5 months as it boiled on the way down the back of Mt Glorious.

MR206 said:

Hey ppl, i went to brake pro 2day to get a quote for Greenstuff pads for my 206.

Pads Front: $215
Pads Rear: $175
Sub Total: $390
GST: $39
Total: $429

All that includes labour for the installation of the pads. Is this a good price? or is it too expensive?

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I looked up the part numbers on Autospeed.com apparently the front brakes are the same as the Citroen Xsara? Because they didnt have the part number i was looking for.
Autospeed has the parts as:
Front #dp21374 : $133.60
Rear DP2458/2: $93.50
Total: $227.10
So it works out difference as Labour costing at Brake Pro at $201.90.
Would you people recommend buying the pads online and getting them installed else where?