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    Looking very good .

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    A better than mass production, hand- fitted-together Peugeot 404, restored with care, love and a good lashing of skill.

    This vehicle will be better than new and will win Concours d'Elegance from images rather than being presented in real life.

    Get the 404 finished , so we can share the 203 adventure with you.
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    Mate those seats really look fantastic. I think youíll have not problem doing my 203 ute ones now.
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    Join the queue mate...
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    Great work - looking fantastic
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    It has been a productive couple of days.

    Stripped and repainted the rear brake drums. Some of the original paint was under the years of grime and brake dust. They cleaned up well using the Geiger heavy duty wire wheell(https://www.cltoolcentre.com.au/geig...-tool-kit.html) I mentioned using one in an early thread and after buying the 203, I could justify purchasing one.

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    Once stripped they were treated with Protec Metal Conditioner to remove any residue, then 3 coats of Dupli-Color Caliper paint.

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    The spare wheel carrier was stripped and prepped for painting. POR15 and PPC Black chassis paint will finish it off.

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    The back of the rear seat has been recovered. Trickier to do than expected. The replacement foam was slightly thicker than the original kapoc filler. As it didn’t pack down like the kapok, the vinyl required a fair amount of stretching/manoeuvring to get it to fit.

    The same process as the swab was used, a layer of canvas clipped to the frame and springs, then the foam. The thicker foam had a tendency to pucker on the corners and gaffer tape was used to smooth them out.

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    The recess for the armrest was also problematic, so many different angles and curves to deal with.

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    A quick test fit.

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    As can be seen in the extra attached images below, the vinyl puckered a little on the first attempt, so it was unclipped and re-tensioned to remove the puckers.

    Next job assemble rear brakes and sew the hood lining. It has already been cut out.


    Cheers,

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    Fantastic work mate. Where did you get the foam from and what’s it’s name?
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    The thin backing foam that is used to gain the ripple effect on the vinyl came from Hamlins Accessories at Virginia and the seat moulding foam is mixture, some from Dymans Foam also at Virginia and a orange seat foam from Clark Rubber. Don't know what the weight or names are, just took their advice etc...

    Daley's at Acacia Ridge have a good supply, but they only sell full sheets.

    To be perfectly honest, it has been trial and error. I did have a couple of goes with some bits.
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    Dan, I don't wish to appear critical or pedantic but I think you mean "squab". A swab is something for scrubbing a ship's deck (avast ye scurvy swabs - splice the mainbrace and poop the poop deck) or something a surgeon uses to mop up blood. If your car has swabs you may have to get an eye patch and a parrot to fit in with the look.
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    Cheers Tony,

    Well there you go, been calling it swab since JC played full-back for Jerusalem. So, if I have been wrong for that long, does that mean JC could have played on the wing? One must be able to laugh at ones self.

    Seriously, I do appreciate the correction though.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerciale View Post
    Dan, I don't wish to appear critical or pedantic but I think you mean "squab". A swab is something for scrubbing a ship's deck (avast ye scurvy swabs - splice the mainbrace and poop the poop deck) or something a surgeon uses to mop up blood. If your car has swabs you may have to get an eye patch and a parrot to fit in with the look.
    Respectfully, with the result Dano has achieved in his restoration (and shared with us of AF) a minor word usage aberration pales into insignificance.

    Swab, squab what does it matter ?
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    A squab is also a young unfledged pigeon!
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    And Swab is also a medical wiper or device to collect a tissue or body fluids.
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    Squab tastes better than swab

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    If you have had kids the back seat could be described as something to collect tissues and body fluids .Pugs
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    Well Dan so un-O’Kane to come up with your own name for something, thank God DJ never made it on here there would be whole section on names.
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    Picked these up from the re-plating works today. Considering the state of the originals, I am pretty happy with the results. There was a fair amount of corrosion within the alloy castings. No guarantee was given that the chrome would take. Considering the age and condition, that was a fair call by the company. They picked the best two, out of the of the 6 available to chose from.

    Next step is to re-wire the terminal leads, fit the new lens covers, rubber seals, wiring boots and foam dust boots. So many little jobs that keep popping up. Will post images when fully assembled.

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    What a great result Dan, and a well done to the plater!

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    Today was a mixed bag of outcomes.

    Spent most of the day trying to cover the backs of the front seats. This has been a work in progress for a while now. I just cannot stop the vinyl on the sides from creasing. At first, I thought I had cut the vinyl to small, so I made a new cover, but that did not change anything.

    When sewing the side panels onto the main parts, it slipped off the table and when grabbing it to stop the fall, the weight of it falling caused a corner to tear.

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    Friday, I decided that the foam was too think so purchased a Ĺ sheet of lighter weight foam. New lumber support cushions were cut and glued into place.

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    They looked good, well until a trail fit was undertaken. The width of the foam had narrowed, due to the inclines on the supports.

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    Rookie error! I had not allowed for the extra surface area. Back to Clark Rubber, purchased the other half of the sheet and started the process again.

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    Whilst the glue was drying, the torn side-panel was un-stitched, a new section drafted and sewn into place.

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    The next fitting was better, but still creasing slightly. I gave up….


    Out to the shed to fit the rear brakes. These were started on Wednesday or Thursday of last week, but I found that the shoe spreader bars had not been painted. A quick coat of calliper paint fixed that, but stopped the work.

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    Everything within the drums, except the spreader plates are new parts.

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    Removing the tape that was used to protect the rubbing surface when painting the drums.

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    Some time back, two backing plates still with square adjuster lugs, had been chosen from a stockpile, cleaned up and painted.


    Being some 35 years since I last fitted rear shoes etc. to a 404, I’d forgotten how pesky the main spring can be to insert. Many terse words were said through gritted teeth. In the end, it all came back and the second set took no time.

    Back to the seats.
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    Fitting the shoe springs is made easier with a specialist tool : a large flat blade screw driver with a slot cut in the blade. Engage the slot with the spring hook and then it's easy to extend the spring due to the extra leverage and distance you are away from the backing plate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Fitting the shoe springs is made easier with a specialist tool : a large flat blade screw driver with a slot cut in the blade. Engage the slot with the spring hook and then it's easy to extend the spring due to the extra leverage and distance you are away from the backing plate.
    This requires too much effort for my compromised upper spine.

    I used a "retired" Phillips head screwdriver to pick up the hook of the spring from below then put the (sharpened) point of the screwdriver in the hole of the shoe receiving the spring hook and then levered the hook into the hole.

    Sometimes the hook does not go in but sits "on the ledge". Then just a tap with a hammer drives it home.
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    I usually just grab the spring with a pair of multigrips, you need to brace yourself against the wheel arch though.

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    I used to use vice grips.
    However I find the slotted screw driver, easier to use , less likely to slip and therefore much safer to use.

    No bracing off the car nor Nubian slave equivalent strength needed either.

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    Had another attempt at recovering the front seats. Third time lucky.

    As stated in an earlier thread, I wasn’t happy with the excessive puckering/creasing of the side vinyl.



    The following includes how the replacement foam bases etc., were formed. This wasn’t included previously.

    The cushioning for the base and backs were formed from various sheets of density/thickness foam. An issue encountered was how to cut the foam. It had been suggested to use an electric carving knife, which worked well, but the blade was not long enough to cut across the whole profile. Cutting from both sides, left a ridge in the middle where the cuts did not quite line up. In the end, a bandsaw was used with a much neater result being obtained.

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    The base outline was cut first then the contour from the original seat was traced/transferred onto the cut section. This was achieved by dividing the old base foam into a number of sections and at each division, the corresponding height was transposed onto the new foam.

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    Unfortunately, the foam on its edge would not fit through the yoke of the saw. This was overcome by cutting the foam into three manageable sections. Two would have done, but I wasn’t too keen on sandwiching a flexible section of foam between the palms of my hands to keep it upright (getting soft or wiser, as I get older) when being passed through the saw. To protect my fingers etc. sections of 3mm MDF were used to hold/sandwich the foam when cutting.

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    Backing up a step, as the foam was to be cut into three sections, the heights were reduced by 20mm. The reasoning behind this was if the sections were to be glued together, they could and created a smooth surface.

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    The thigh supports for the base were replicated in the same manner. Trace, cut, glue.

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    When fitting the vinyl to the base section it was too short around the sides. Not sure why, I guess the new base foam was slightly thinker/ firmer. As with all the vinyl sections, the original seat panels were used as templates. Stuffed up somewhere. Anyhow, new side sections were drafted, cut and restitched.

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    Stretching and clipping the base vinyl was relatively straightforward. Having the correct upholstery/hog clip pliers made the world of difference. Cheap fencing pliers just didn’t do the job. They didn’t compress the clip completely, thus not closing the clip tightly around the frame wire. The other advantage of using upholstery pliers is they are spring loaded (closed), which keeps pressure on the clip at all times.


    The back sections weren’t as straight forward. As said, I wasn’t happy with the first attempt nor the second. The side sections up near the top roll had ugly folds/creases. Pretty sure this was caused by the slightly thicker/denser replacement foam and errors when drafting new patterns, which were making allowances for the thicker foam. The original foam measured about 20mm thick and was quite soft, which I thought was just age. The initial replacement foam, was eventually replaced with a less denser/thicker foam, as I believed this too was contributing to the problem. Stretching and pulling the foam/vinyl over of the frame was difficult.

    Just about gave myself a hernia trying to stretch the back support return spring into place; it has to be 4-5mm thick and has a huge amount of tension. Initially tried to lever it back into place with a modified pinch bar and wedging it into a bracket on the frame as a pivot point. It was not easy as the bar slipped off a few times, resulting in having the spring recoil and flying around.

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    That idea was ditched. Thought about leaving the spring out… Then a stroke of genius, a small double hooked turnbuckle was used to stretch the spring into place. Still a delicate procedure and the fingers were kept well out of the way. A face shield was worn, just in case the turnbuckle broke, bits could have flown anywhere.

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    The end result still has some small puckering, but as time goes by and the foam and vinyl settle into place, I’m hoping they will disappear.

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    The whole upholstery process has been another huge learning curve. Initially, I was going to get them done professionally, but I was inspired by Floride 59’s work on his Fregate’. He said to me something along the lines of, “Be patient and believe you can do it”

    My wife also said something that put it all into perspective for me, when I was thinking about doing them again. She said, "Most people learn to sew by making an apron of something simple, look what you have achieved".

    Sorry if that sounded a little egotistical.
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