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    Got lots of pics but the few that count are here. Oil area looks good much better than I expected. Cam belt end main bearing is warn but with good wear marking. No finger nail ribs on the crank. I'll get a view of the others soon.


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    Took No1 piston out (cam belt end) and I can confirm it has been rebuilt before. First hint was the helicoils, second hint is the liners have been honed twice. Look close and you will see two sets of cross hatch. Something I haven't experienced was when I lifted the cap off the rod, the bearing stayed attached to the crank. A gentle twist with a leaver and it popped off. You can see how it's distorted when it sits in the cap. I'd say half a millimetre at each end. Need the brain trust to help me here.



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    Check bearing crush and ovality on the rods as well as the bearing clearance. Even if a crank doesn't have grooves, it doesn't mean it's not worn. It does mean that the oil filter has been working properly. Liner has had water in it hence the pitting at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Check bearing crush and ovality on the rods as well as the bearing clearance. Even if a crank doesn't have grooves, it doesn't mean it's not worn. It does mean that the oil filter has been working properly. Liner has had water in it hence the pitting at the top.
    Water - yes that would be from the pressure clean last week. Remember I have a second block and components so I will rip that one apart too and see how that one is.
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    Where to purchase bearings from? Is one brand better than the other? King Racing, Glyco.......
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    Find an ACL dealer.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Marks Mi16 Rebuild-screen-shot-2018-02-26-10.24.08-pm.jpg  

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    I'm going the whole hog. Stripped everything down and off to the engineers. Crank to me measured for bearings an block to be cleaned. I'll take the liners to him for measure as well.
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    I stripped the second engine today and once again picked a day that was so bloody hot.... The internals of the second engine look to be in better nick than the first. I will take them both to the engineers tommorow and he can pick the best based on measurements.

    First engine internals are really black. Second engine internals are a nice new oil colour. What causes this colour difference?

    And yes I'm guilty of owning the crocks...

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    you need to take the engine blocks and get the area that the liners sit bead blasted. They corrode under the liner seats and will only show up when properly cleaned.
    Adrian Wuillemin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Wuillemi View Post
    you need to take the engine blocks and get the area that the liners sit bead blasted. They corrode under the liner seats and will only show up when properly cleaned.
    Thanks Adrian. That is going too. I'm having trouble sourcing the o-rings for the liners without having to purchase them in a complete set. Any ideas?
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    Will look in the shed and let you know if I have any.

    Maybe try Peugeot
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    EAI sell a set of four.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    EAI sell a set of four.
    I tried EAI first up but they are not stocking them anymore. Same for spray bar o rings and water pump gaskets... I think they are parting ways from the old stuff
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    Spray bar o-rings are easy, just take a sample to a hydraulics specialist or o-ring supplier.

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    On the topic of your driveshafts, did you replace any needles? I lost a few of mine when I accidentally shook the dirty rag I disassembled it on

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    Quote Originally Posted by flock View Post
    On the topic of your driveshafts, did you replace any needles? I lost a few of mine when I accidentally shook the dirty rag I disassembled it on
    Hey flock,
    No mate I was very careful not to loose any as I didn't have any for back up. A nice clean work area, bucket of cleaner, a magnet and cv grease.
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    I'm rather impressed you can work on the car in that tight garage. You've inspired me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flock View Post
    I'm rather impressed you can work on the car in that tight garage. You've inspired me!
    Haha if you look closely up the back of the garage you will also see its my bedroom..... Aahhhhh there's nothing like the smell of Castrol in the morning..
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    Block, liners, pistons and crank are at the engineers now to me measured. I should get them back with details next Thursday. Sub frame is going to be welded up tomorrow. Steering rack now. I got the pinion kit from Perth, boots from UK, and just ordered inner ends. I would like Rose joint outer ends but a bit pricey.

    Trying to find the plastic lock piece but I don't even know if it's really needed.
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    I have just tought myself a valuable lesson. In my haste to remove the power steering a few years back, I removed the ram and pump and pipes. I also cut of the thread that the ram connects to on the rack FACEPLANT!

    Need a new rack now... Bugger.
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    Get a competent person to weld a new stud on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Get a competent person to weld a new stud on.
    Yes I was also looking around taping one in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugMonkey View Post
    I have just tought myself a valuable lesson. In my haste to remove the power steering a few years back, I removed the ram and pump and pipes. I also cut of the thread that the ram connects to on the rack FACEPLANT!

    Need a new rack now... Bugger.
    Mark whats The reason you are going back to power steering? I'm thinking of doing away with mine and fitting a non power quick rack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvu205 View Post
    Mark whats The reason you are going back to power steering? I'm thinking of doing away with mine and fitting a non power quick rack.
    Well I took the power steering off to reduce weight. I did get a non ps rack but it has a different lock to lock ratio. Now I will have camber and slicks to deal with I am planning to put an electric hydraulic power steering unit in. Very simple to do.
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    Are you fitting a dry sump? It is the only way I would be running slicks.
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