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    I must have been bored during March this year as I set out for Brisbane with a mate and brought back a 1988 New Zealand delivered Alpine GTA ATMO. It had not been driven for 7+ years so I just got a NSW unregistered vehicle permit ($28) and drove it 1200km back home to Bathurst!!
    "What was I thinking" as I drove an unfamiliar car with my bum 2 inches off the road through traffic headed for Ipswich. This car has been idle for 7 odd years and here I am on a 1200km road trip. As I got near Warwick I was pulled over by a QLD motorcycle cop, I handed him my paperwork which he had a good look at, wished me well and sent me on my way. We arrived in Glen Innes and it was pouring with rain, the wipers and demister were working overtime and my right foot was wet. Our Motel manager from Armidale rang and said the highway just south of Glen Innes was closed due to flooding. No worries if we don't make it he won't charge us for the room, great, thanks for that. We set off for Armidale just as it was getting dark and still pouring down rain. The high beam worked really well and the funny wipers scraped at the windshield. Every creek and river we passed was overflowing and flood water lapped at the black top, but we pushed on. So much for the road being closed, it was close though. We arrived at our Motel around 9:30pm and as everything was closed we settled for a meal at the American restaurant with the golden arches. The following morning at around 8am we fueled both cars, had a servo breakfast and set off. The miles whiled by, Tamworth, Werris Ck, Premer, Coolah, Dunedoo and Mudgee for lunch. We departed Mudgee in the early afternoon heading for the Sofala turn off at Ilford. I was about 2km along the Ilford Rd when in my mirror I saw red and blues and the sound of a siren wailing at me. I pulled over and a plain clothes cop in a Camry pulled up next to me screaming "Where are your number plates!!!" I pulled out my paperwork and advised him I had an unregistered vehicle permit. Well slow down he said! I asked "was I speeding" as my GPS and speedo both said 95kph? Well maybe a little he said, but who could blame you in that! He took off in a cloud and left me contemplating the difference between the QLD and NSW Police. An hour later I was heading into Bathurst expecting to find a Highway Patrol Car waiting for me, but no. A few more Km to go and I'm home.
    It was a big 3 days and I thought I would sleep for a week. I parked the GTA in the shed and that is where it stayed for the next month, I didn't even look at it, I just thought, "What have I done"!

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    Over the past few months I have begun to replace a few bits and pieces. Fuel lines, radiator hoses, hood lining and more so watch this space for the updates.
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    That looks nice!
    Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone............

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    Jags out!
    Renault only garage I see!
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    Very nice! I'm sure many of us are pleased that the car is in good hands.

    You're close to Inverell too for the 2019 Muster! Close relative to Perth that is.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    Jags out!
    Renault only garage I see!
    My X Type lives under the carport and the XJC lives in the other garage. 2 of each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Very nice! I'm sure many of us are pleased that the car is in good hands.

    You're close to Inverell too for the 2019 Muster! Close relative to Perth that is.....
    The plan is to take it to Inverell. A little more work to go yet.
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    I was so tempted on that car myself but wasn't brave enough to drive it back. Good on you for doing it, you had a great road trip home. Good luck with the resto and keep the photos flowing.
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    I didn't know Peter even had the car for sale until Paul contacted me about various things about the car, although I hardly needed another one.
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    Once I built up enough courage to look at my purchase I put the Alpine on the hoist and gave it a good pressure wash and inspection. No rust in the chassis, phew! I cleaned the car inside and out which took a day or two. Replaced all the blown fuses and most things now work. I cleaned the hood lining and the fabric broke away from the foam so I replaced it. Removed the interior, cleaned the door trims and steam cleaned the carpets. The carpet in the engine bay area was sad to say the least so I replaced it with new blue carpet. I believe the original colour was black but I prefer the blue.
    Now the maintenance started. First was the gear selector bushes which were badly deteriorated and worn. I could not select 5th gear on the way home so I have put that down to the selector bushes. Next I replaced all the rubber fuel lines and filters, easy job. The radiator hoses were next and that was not so easy and of course a few more issues there. I'll continue that in the next update.
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    Looks like yours has air conditioning as well. I may have the story wrong, but I believe your car was one of very few that was sold new in New Zealand, so avoiding the salted roads of the UK, and the massive surface rusting issues of those cars. Rust is usually at the top of the rear towers, and the box section that the rack mounts on, which you need to pull out the fuel tank to inspect. I have also seen it where the bottom outer seat belt mounting is, and just below the pedal box. On the English cars, virtually every second fastener just snaps off when trying to undo it.

    The rear gear selector bushes do get tired and take some effort to replace. I replaced my hood lining about 4 years ago. Like yours, the foam backing on the cloth just crumbles. I also don't mind the blue engine cover on a white car.
    Nice view from the hoist! Thank you for telling the story.
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    Envious. Very nice Alpine. Enjoy Paul
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    Well done....great story....great car . :}
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    I managed to get a new set of silicone hoses from a fellow in Tasmania who unfortunately lost his car in a fire after it was stolen. I bought everything he had including door locks and more. I began to replace the radiator and heater hoses and those people who know these cars its not all that easy. You need to remove the inlet manifold from the V to get to the hoses underneath it. Once I removed the manifold I removed about 1kg of mud wasp nests (see photo) and other crud built up over the years. Some of the cooling system in the V is connected using metal pipes and they were badly rusted. They are available new from Meca Parts but for a premium price so I had a friend make them for me. Once all my parts arrived I was able to replace the rest of the hoses and the manifold. I now moved to the front of the cooling system and replaced the 2 main front hoses that just arrived. Time to re fill the system and test it. Once the system was full I started the engine and bled the system only to find the original radiator was leaking at the left tank and the new front radiator hose was leaking at the heater hose branch. I removed the hoses to find the heater branch was installed without any sealer so I rectified that and then remove the front bumper to get to the radiator. I am currently waiting for my new Europa Cup radiator to arrive. To ensure proper cooling I have purchased 2 new 12 inch electric fans to replace to 40 year old units. While everything was out of the front of the car it was a good opportunity to clean up the chassis rails and re paint the components.

    Next instalment- Oh Crap! Whats on fire in there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    I managed to get a new set of silicone hoses from a fellow in Tasmania who unfortunately lost his car in a fire after it was stolen. I bought everything he had including door locks and more. I began to replace the radiator and heater hoses and those people who know these cars its not all that easy. You need to remove the inlet manifold from the V to get to the hoses underneath it. Once I removed the manifold I removed about 1kg of mud wasp nests (see photo) and other crud built up over the years. Some of the cooling system in the V is connected using metal pipes and they were badly rusted. They are available from but for a premium price so I had a friend make them for me. Once all my parts arrived I was able to replace the rest of the hoses and the manifold. I now moved to the front of the cooling system and replaced the 2 main front hoses that just arrived. Time to re fill the system and test it. Once the system was full I started the engine and bled the system only to find the original radiator was leaking at the left tank and the new front radiator hose was leaking at the heater hose branch. I removed the hoses to find the heater branch was installed without any sealer so I rectified that and then remove the front bumper to get to the radiator. I am currently waiting for my new Europa Cup radiator to arrive. To ensure proper cooling I have purchased 2 new 12 inch electric fans to replace to 40 year old units. While everything was out of the front of the car it was a good opportunity to clean up the chassis rails and re paint the components.

    Next instalment- Oh Crap! Whats on fire in there?
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    Hey Tommo

    Didn't look like that when I was there yesterday. Notice surface rust on some parts like the rear lower control arms. Best fix is POR15 if you can get them off which you have to do anyway to install your new bushes. Agree with Alan about the upper part of the rear suspension. Salt on the roads in the UK plays havoc with this area. Fortunately mine were OK even tho it came from Stoke on Trent but I still gave them the treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzamac View Post
    Hey Tommo

    Didn't look like that when I was there yesterday. Notice surface rust on some parts like the rear lower control arms. Best fix is POR15 if you can get them off which you have to do anyway to install your new bushes. Agree with Alan about the upper part of the rear suspension. Salt on the roads in the UK plays havoc with this area. Fortunately mine were OK even tho it came from Stoke on Trent but I still gave them the treatment.
    Hi Bazza,
    I have already cleaned up the rusty water marks from the leaking radiator and it has all been treated with the full 3 step POR15 treatment. As my car was delivered new in New Zealand I don't have the rust issues the UK cars have however I am having a good look just in case. As I remove components I am giving them the POR15 treatment. The rear control arms will get the same when they are removed for new bushes.

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    The radiator arrived and I set about fitting my new 12 inch fans that afternoon. The following day with the front bumper and old radiator removed I fitted the new alloy radiator, strangely there were no problems as it was a good fit. I just needed to tweak the fan fitment. With everything fitted, fans tested and the system re filled and bled I left the car running to build up temperature and check for leaks. Every few minutes a puff of smoke came up from the right bank which was a leaking cam cover gasket dripping oil on to the exhaust manifold. After about 15 minutes of idling there was a large amount of smoke coming from the left side of the engine bay, "What now!" Above the spare wheel there is a small air pump which is designed to move cool air around the engine bay if the car is idling for extended periods. This air pump had not seen service for some years and was seized. As the car had been idling for some time it decided it was time to come on but instead it got hot itself started smoking. Luckily I was right there and was able to shut the car down, disconnect and remove it, good save. The cooling system is now working well without leaks, I removed the right cam cover and re sealed the gasket, no more puffs of smoke. I purchased a similar type of air pump/blower but at this stage it is not fitted, need to think about that for a while as its a slightly larger size. At this point all is going to plan.

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    1)New Radiator.
    2)Fitted with new fans.
    3)Air scoop repaired and re-fitted.
    4)Old seized air pump. (Anyone have one of these sitting in their shed?)

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    Excellent. And an Alpine you can actually fit in!
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    With all the engine and cooling repairs completed it was time to replace the worn the suspension bushes. I had purchased all new bushes for the front and rear. Beginning with the rear right side I removed the upper and lower wishbones, removed the old perished bushes, painted everything and pressed in the new bushes. This was not as easy as it sounded but after a few hours it was done. The left rear was a bit easier after learning from doing the right side. Both sides completed in the one day, a job made so much easier having a 2 post hoist.
    After removing the old bushes I know why the rear end was making a few clunking sounds.
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    Keep up the good work Paul. I miss my GTA :{
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    Well I'm almost there.
    With the Alpine now roadworthy I needed to do something with the old stereo system. The original Phillips 1980's radio and amp was not working so well, hard to use and the tape player only made a loud buzzing sound. I wanted to replace it with a modern system with a GPS and reversing camera however the 2K price tag for the unit I wanted left me with a pain in my hip so I have fitted a reversing camera/monitor and new cd aux stereo system.
    Running the camera cables from the rear to the cabin presented more problems as there was nowhere to get a wire into the cabin until I found the conduit that houses the engine lid cable. A little bit of jiggling a draw wire and I had wiring where it was needed. I made a new fascia panel to carry both the stereo and reversing camera monitor which is covered in black vinyl and fits in with the 80's look. Fitting the rear camera also had its issues. I wanted to fit the camera above the number plate however it became obvious with all the heat shielding in that area it was not going to happen so a new lower alternate location was used.
    Lastly I fitted an "Engine Guard" temperature sensor with overheating alarm as I do not have much faith in the original gauge.

    Today I visited the RMS and organised a permit to drive the Alpine to my auto electrician tomorrow being 4/1/18. While there it will receive a bit of a wiring tidy up and a few things looked at such as the fuel pump wiring, electric mirrors, oil level sender and a few other minor issues I have not been able to rectify myself. When that is completed it goes next door to the mechanic for a safety inspection and when it passes with flying colours on to Club Registration. I would like it registered in February on the same date as my R8G. So close now.
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    Photo 2- Making a frame to hold the fascia panel.
    Photo 3- making the fascia panel.
    Photo 4- Dummy fitting of the radio and monitor fitting. The radio is now sitting square.
    Photo 5- Engine Guard.
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    Don’t reverse back, there’s a heap of kids there!
    I’d thought you passed that stage now, and not yet due for grand kids

    Looking good. When in Feb is THE date just out of interest so I know how much notice I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    Don’t reverse back, there’s a heap of kids there!
    I’d thought you passed that stage now, and not yet due for grand kids

    Looking good. When in Feb is THE date just out of interest so I know how much notice I have.
    17th Kevin. I have all the paperwork at the ready.

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    aw, I kind of liked all the buttons, sliders and knobs of the original stereo - so hi tech, so 80's.

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    The GTA has now been with the Auto Electrician for almost 8 weeks. All the electrical gremlins have been sorted however the air conditioning had been problematic. They found some split hoses, probably due to being unused for so long and every time they re test the system another hose splits. So at this stage every rubber hose and the fittings have been replaced, including new dryer/receiver, switches etc. All the AC fittings are non standard so all new fittings have to be ordered for the system as they go. They hope to have the AC tested this afternoon and if all goes well re gassed tomorrow and then put the car back together. Needless to say I have been working some overtime at the moment as I am worried about the final invoice.
    While the car was in the workshop it was given a roadworthy inspection and passed so it is now on Club rego. All being well we will make the Alpine Road Tour in April.
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    What a good-looking car!

    I'd suggest quite a lot of overtime would be a good idea!! Having the AC done properly is a good investment I reckon. I've done that recently with the Citroen CX and also fixed the belt drive system to the compressor (upgraded from single belt to double belt). Brilliant result except for the new condenser failing (being replaced today). There's no point in a car like yours unless it all works properly I reckon. Enjoy the tour.

    Cheers
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