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    After selling the Dauphine I was looking around for a car that would keep me racing in the meantime while I built the next project.
    This came up on Trademe.
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    Its a 1996 106 S16 and has done a number of Targa Rallies and done very well winning Index of Performance twice. I rang a friend of mine here in Auckland and he knows all the 106’s in NZ and his summation of the car was “a good car that needs some sorting out”.
    The car was in Queenstown in the South Island so I flew done with the intention of driving the car back home, a trip of about 1500kms.
    The trip went very well considering the weather was wet the whole way, an unfamiliar car, LH drive and on roads I haven’t driven for years.
    As soon as I got home I started writing the “to do” list and its quite long. However my friends comments were spot on. It’s a really good car, its had a lot of money spent on it over the years and has some really good gear on it but it really does need sorting out.
    So I will try and keep you all updated as I progress.
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    Well done Ross, will be a nice Targa car once more we expect!

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    Yes dimistyle, an ideal targa car although I will primarily be using it for hillclimbs etc.

    The specs are:
    Bilstein suspension all round
    Large brakes up front (306 I think)
    EBC yellow stuff pads all round
    Jenvey throttle bodies
    Cat cams
    VEMS ECU
    BTB exhaust manifold
    Lightened flywheel
    Full roll cage
    etc, etc (I'm still finding bits that have been modified)

    It came with dyno reports done last year when the throttle bodies where fitted, max hp was 132 at the wheels at 6300rpm.

    So about 160hp and I would presume about 800kg without driver (maybe less) it should make a fun little race car.
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    Do you recall who did the tuning down South? There's a crowd in Avondale who have tuned a few Alfa GTV that I hear are recommended but that was 6 years ago now since I jumped the ditch.

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    The dyno sheets say Troys Mechanical Services. I think they are in Wellington

    So the first job in the sort out was the interior.

    Seating position was all wrong for me so out with the seats and found these heavy steel frames that were serving no purpose whatsoever.
    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170605_164458.jpg

    So with a bit of rejigging the existing mounts I was able to throw out the steel frames and mount the seats much lower.Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170605_164538.jpg

    Second on the list was the steering wheel. Not wishing to upset the previous owner but this steering wheel was the nastiest thing I have ever used.Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170605_164632.jpg

    Luckily my son had a very nice wheel left over from something, slightly bigger in diameter which is good.Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170605_164807.jpg

    And lastly the gear knob which once again was a cheap nasty aftermarket thing that was loose on the gear stick so a quick trip to pickapart and all sorted.Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170605_164702.jpg
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    Anodized blue accessories what were they thinking....good progress Ross

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    So the next job was the engine bay

    This photo was as I bought it Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-106-advert-2.jpg

    There is a number of things I would like to do including:
    - coating the headers
    - painting the rocker covers
    - sorting out the ECU attachment method (bits of tie down strap and some bungee cord don't really do it for me)
    - cold air to the throttle bodies (there was a variety of pipes and ducting that looked a mess and I'm sure was not very effective)
    - oil catch can (it came with one made from a thermos flask)
    - tidying up the wiring
    - checking all the plumbing
    - checking the radiator (there was some brown staining around which is always a bad sign)

    So with all this to do I thought the best way would be to remove the engine.
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    And while its out I will give the engine bay a respray.
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    Definitely interested in this one Ross! Keep this pics and words coming please.
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    Good on you Ross. I also saw that car on Trademe, it's not often a 106 comes up. I'm in Auckland and have one too, and I can't think of a better car for what you want to do!

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    Thanks guys.

    Once the engine was out I could get a good look at the throttle bodies. They are made by Jenvey and IMHO these things are a work of art.
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    The butterflies are oval in shape and have a tapered leading edge and no shaft so as you can see on the last photo at full open throttle there is almost not obstruction right through to the valves.

    The exhaust extractors were looking very sad when I bought the car but according to Josh (he has posted on this forum, yellow Saxo) these are quite good extractors. They are BTB (British firm) 4/2/1.
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    So I gave them a quick tidy up and sent them off for coating. They are coated inside and out with a ceramic coating that is supposed to increase horsepower and reduce under-bonnet temps. Who knows if the claims are true but they look much better.
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    Nice work. Get rid of the socks however. They are hp sucking, cheap solutions for an air cleaner. They severely restrict the ability of the air to enter the trumpet correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    Nice work. Get rid of the socks however. They are hp sucking, cheap solutions for an air cleaner. They severely restrict the ability of the air to enter the trumpet correctly.
    Thanks Peter. I thought I had heard that some time ago so I was planning to ditch them and build a cold air box fed from the front of the car somewhere. I will keep you posted.
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    As I said earlier I suspected that something was not quite right with the cooling system, lots of brown staining around. So I sent the radiator off to my trusted radiator repair shop and sure enough someone had tried to do a bodge job on one of the tanks.
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    You can just see on the right hand inside of the tank the patch up material lifting.
    Luckily they managed to hook me up with the last 106 radiator in Auckland.
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    Today I got everything ready for repainting the engine bay. I will do the underside of the bonnet as well. Just need some good weather now.
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    And now all bright and shiny

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    All the nuts and bolts etc ready for zinc plating

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170622_202249.jpg

    And all the engine bay brackets sand blasted and ready for painting

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170622_202318.jpg

    And the first new part bolted on. This is part of the gear linkage.

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170622_190257.jpgPeugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170622_190315.jpg

    The round spherical ball on the end wears and causes slop in the system on all gears. Luckily they are readily available on ebay.
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    I started pulling the driveshafts apart today as I have just received all new CV boots from ebay.

    I was a bit surprised to find two different types of CV joints on the outer ends of each shaft.

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    Does this matter? Is this the way it was intended or has one of the shafts been replaced at some time?

    Also the one on the left (with the 3 wheels inside instead of the ball bearings) was filled with a very thick oil, not grease. Is this right or can I use CV grease in this type?

    Thanks
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    More bright shiny stuff.

    I picked up the zinc plating yesterday and I finished off all the 2k black the other day.

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    So let the reassembly commence.

    First on the list was the driveshafts

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    I just want to say, threads like this are some of my favourites.
    I never remember to take the good photos as I get to each milestone.
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    Next on the list was the pedal box/brake booster mounting bracket which had to go in first to allow the steering rack to go back in place.

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170702_090610.jpg

    Then the power steering pump (electric on the 106's) and the ABS pump

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    Followed by the booster and the master cylinder

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    One product I haven't used before is loom tape. The wiring loom is showing its age and there are bits of electrical tape all over the place with ends hanging out, makes the whole thing very untidy. A mate put me on to this loom tape (Tesa brand). Its is self adhesive with a sort of brushed outer surface.

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    And this is how it looks, much tidier I think.

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    Up till now most of the work has been around the cosmetics. However there are a couple of modifications I want to make that will hopefully be useful performance improvements or add to reliability.

    The first is a cold air box and feed to the ITB's. So I positioned the engine in the engine bay and made a profile to fit the limited space available.

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170703_153553.jpg

    After a little bit of adjustment (I want to be able to remove and replace the cold air box with the engine in place) I folded up some 1.5mm alloy.

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-20170703_154908.jpg

    I will make it with a removable top panel using rivnuts hence the gap at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post

    And the first new part bolted on. This is part of the gear linkage.

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    The round spherical ball on the end wears and causes slop in the system on all gears. Luckily they are readily available on ebay.
    Hi Ross,

    Thanks for the photos! I have looked at replacing the same spherical ball on my 306 as it's worn - did you consider some form of rose joint? The rest of the linkages can be uprated but this one is a pain.

    Cheers,

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblah View Post
    Hi Ross,

    Thanks for the photos! I have looked at replacing the same spherical ball on my 306 as it's worn - did you consider some form of rose joint? The rest of the linkages can be uprated but this one is a pain.

    Cheers,

    Chris
    Hi Chris

    No I didn't consider a rose joint, I figured if the old one lasted 21 years and the new one was under a $100 that would do me. However you are right a rose joint would be the best solution.
    Probably would be that hard either. You would just need to ensure the new joint had enough range of movement in both directions.
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    After much cutting, modifying, discussion and research I have decided to ditch the cold air box idea for now.
    The reasons are:
    1. Room - with the itb's being so long there is not enough room to get the required clearance between the throttle mouth and the airbox back wall.
    2. Side entry - I was going to have a side entry to the airbox. However this has its problems as the air tends to rush down to the far end of the box and you end up with 2 cylinders running a bit lean and the other 2 running a bit rich. I could build a top entry box but this would mean either cutting up the bonnet and having an air scoop or building an under bonnet scoop as per the 106 maxi but both of these options do not appeal at this stage.
    3. Length of intake piping - a long intake pipe somewhat negates the advantages of itb's.
    4. Practicalities - it would have to be easily removable for servicing etc and that's almost impossible in the room available.

    I could have cut through the fire wall as a lot of 106 modifiers do, however that would require certification which I don't want to do.

    Also according to Josh (yellow Saxo) the under bonnet temps in these cars are not high which was another factor in the decision.

    So for now I will run a single foam filter like this.

    Peugeot 106 S16 - the sort out-itg-filter.jpg

    Maybe at some later stage I will come back to the idea of a cold air box.
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    I have been busy finishing off the interior.

    When the car was converted to a race car the air con pump and radiator were removed. However the air con unit under the dash was never removed. This is quite a heavy unit.

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    With that out of the way I needed to make a connection between the fan unit and the heater. So a fabricated a couple of ali adapters and inserted a length of plastic ducting pipe.

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    The door cards had also been removed at some stage. When I got the car they where mostly duct taped. I found a couple of light weight doors cards on ebay which tidied things up very well.

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    And half an hour on my industrial sewing machine I had a couple of leather door straps.

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    Another pet dislike of mine is fake race pedals, which the car had.

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    A couple of dollars on ebay saw these arrive.

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    Engine out again and made a simple stand which will made future engine in's and out's simple.

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    Then a quick clean up and a can of high heat paint.

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    And all the bits bolted back on.

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