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    Another area I wasn't too happy with was the vacuum plumbing. There are 4 nipples at the base of each throttle body and 2 of these were connected to the MAP sensor and the other 2 to the brake bootser with a tee off this line to the fuel pressure regulator. However there must have been about 20 joins in all this.

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    So after some discussion with Frans and some internet surfing I decided to go with a central vacuum distribution block.

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    Fabricated a simple bracket to go under the throttle bodies.

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    And all installed. The large hoses at each end are for the MAP sensor and the brake booster.

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    Hopefully this will be a much more reliable system.
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    Anyone own a 106 in Aus?

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    Re that vacumn reservoir. I've heard the CC capacity can make a difference to the MAP sensor readings, was that a consideration when you made that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Re that vacumn reservoir. I've heard the CC capacity can make a difference to the MAP sensor readings, was that a consideration when you made that up?
    Hi Bowie, no I had not considered that at all. The internal volume of the distribution block is very small so I assumed the vacuum would be the same as before. If anyone else has some information on this I would greatly appreciate it.

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    Ah it was a discussion around the megajolt, and it's map sensor.

    https://forum.autosportlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=1171

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Ah it was a discussion around the megajolt, and it's map sensor.

    https://forum.autosportlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=1171
    Thanks Bowie, interesting reading.

    I think after reading that thread my system should work well. The plenum size is very small ( I will try and measure the cc's) and the pipe work to the plenum is very short. So it should provide a smooth and dynamic signal.
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    Still making progress.
    Engine is in and all hooked up.

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    Next on the list was a oil catch can. Fits nicely above the gearbox mount where the battery used to be.

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    Then a new battery box, also in alloy. The old one was very bulky with lots of threaded rod and bits of wood.

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    The new one has the advantage of being easier to disconnect the battery when needed.

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    Not far of start up now. There are a couple of events coming up which I wouldn't mind doing so may need a bit of a push to get it finished.
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    Another piece in the puzzle arrived the other day. I managed to find a second hand ITG air filter for $100 on Trademe.

    I had to modify the back plate slightly but getting the filter element on was very tight.

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    However once on I think it looks fine and will do the job until I can work out a better solution.
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    New tyres arrived last week. The car came with 205/50/15's on 6" rims but they just looked way too big and there had been signs of quite a bit of tyre rub.

    I decided to go with Nankang AR1's in 195/50/15. They dont make them in 185 which probably would have been better but these should do the job.

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    Also changed the steering wheel again, this time to a Mi16 wheel. And added a manual oil pressure gauge.

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    So doing a bit of testing and noticed something wrong with the front suspension.

    So out with the front struts and this is what I found!

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    Turns out its was running a Koni insert in the right hand side and a Bilstien insert in the left. Go figure!!

    It also turns out that the matching Bilstien insert (brand new) was in the bunch of spares that came with the car.

    The other problem (as you can see from the photos) is that the springs are not captive at full droop.

    So off to my local suspension man and I now have a matching set of Bilstiens and captive springs.

    Thats the "sort out" finished for now. I will post the results of the first couple of events I do with the car. I am hoping to do at least two events before Christmas.

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    As promised here is a report on the first event I did with the 106.

    The event is the Kemp Rd hillclimb, its a road used by a couple of clubs in the area and I have done it quite a few times in the past. Its about 2.5kms and is a typical winding NZ back country road (sealed of course).

    25 cars entered this year. This event is run by the MG Car Club of Auckland but very few MG's enter. There was a wide range of cars competing, here is a photo I took while we were waiting for the start.

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    Unfortunately the day was marred by a serious crash which shut the event down at around 3.30pm. A Toyota Altezza (son driving and father in the passenger seat) came off the road down a bank and into a tree on the left hand side. The father is currently in hospital in a serious condition.

    Overall the 106 went well. On the first timed run an injector plug came off dropping me down to 3 cylinders. I plugged it back on and kept an eye on it for the rest of the day. After that my times started to come down and I'm sure with more runs it would have come down even more. Obviously being my first event with the car I was learning and didnt want to do anything stupid. Best run was a 79.8 which I was OK about. My best time last year in the Dauphine was a 76.1 so I have quite a bit to go before equaling that but it takes me time to learn a new car. Fastest time of the day was a 71.1 and slowest was a 93.3.

    This put me in 15th place out of 25.

    I have another couple of events coming up before Christmas, I hope to do at least one of them so hopefully a bit faster next time.
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