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    Ok so I have read every single post in this thread word by word since it's inception all this morning & it ends with Photobucket chat... Has the car ever seen the track? I'm hooked (and scared) now & need to know more on where it is up to.

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    Yeah, where's it up to?
    I've been depressed that my car has been taking so long to finish. Mine's about to go to the ECU tuner, but you've got about 2 years head start on me
    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, PeugeotSport Baffled Sump, Oil cooler, Quaife LSD, E85.

    Sandown - 1:31.5
    Winton - 1:40.2
    Phillip Island - 1:58.4
    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

    Previously, 2x 504 Wagon, 505 Wagon, 505 STi, 405.

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    I've been using my 309 for over a year and still sorting it out, at least it is reliable now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    I think Cam and Pat only have the wiring left to do.
    Over a year since this update. How complicated is that wiring ?

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    Cam & Pat's 205 Race Car-e668a74c-d4e9-4b9b-b369-9c55f1551a08.jpegCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-d6831910-c18d-4e77-b37f-98c48ea663a4.jpgCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-3ce6b6a8-625c-410d-9b73-45ee09806122.jpgCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-8e901b3b-4b82-440b-848c-8429c7fbaa45.jpgClick image for larger version. 

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ID:	109646Hey Guys

    Turns out it get complicated!

    Its still progressing. The amount of hours and time considered in this build has been quite astounding. As you will have seen we made a decision to build this car properly once and to not have to continously pull things in and out to change them when its done. This means time time time and $$$$$ which we all dont have a lot of at the minute!

    In saying that I will share a few photos of some progress just to show that it is still progressing.

    The car ended up have a bespoke wiring harbess fitted front to back which also means a custom board and hours of time to do it properly once. High quality materials and time in design consideration has added a significant braking affect to perceived progress! Huw has done a stella job and his ideas and solutions to issues are far and beyone what Pat and I could have hope for. This also adds time and cost!

    The jobs left to do revolve around the wiring, window fitnent, windscreen fitment and a session on the dyno. Then its track time.
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    Sorry about the multi photos! The old Iphone jibe...

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    Few moreCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-9f88439b-d921-4398-9d8a-048e0c215600.jpgCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-2b5777b8-ad23-4fbc-a10b-e1f7d456636c.jpegCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-3f664f5d-5d59-484b-88fa-85421819dc79.jpegCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-9a7408d7-5f77-4ca5-8ef5-9f4ca3a1038f.jpgCam & Pat's 205 Race Car-b93f3b04-aa2f-4075-9b84-78feb4aabc72.jpg
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    Great to see the project is still moving, thanks for the update. Those pics show a part of all the time and money involved.

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    Looking good. Shame you bought one of those Raptor Pro, I've actually got a spare I could have sold you cheaper.
    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, PeugeotSport Baffled Sump, Oil cooler, Quaife LSD, E85.

    Sandown - 1:31.5
    Winton - 1:40.2
    Phillip Island - 1:58.4
    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

    Previously, 2x 504 Wagon, 505 Wagon, 505 STi, 405.

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    Thanks guys

    Are you not going to use yours? It was a toss up for a while. It does not really fit the dished steering wheel but we love the wheel and have come up with a solution to make it fit.

    Cam

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    Nice tidy work. You can see the hours in it. I do like the remaining foam pad on the blinker, you don't want any rattles in the car lol!

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    I definitely am using it, but for complex reasons relating to switching to ground vs 12V vs 5V logic level and CANbus I ended up getting the alternative version with regular relays.
    It's a bit of a shame, as I've since figured out how I could have made the Pro version work slightly better with less wires, and it has the better case and plug too.

    So now I have a spare Raptor Pro.
    Your steering really is very dished. You don't see many of those on modern race cars, I guess for this exact reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by cam85 View Post
    Are you not going to use yours? It was a toss up for a while. It does not really fit the dished steering wheel but we love the wheel and have come up with a solution to make it fit.

    Cam
    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, PeugeotSport Baffled Sump, Oil cooler, Quaife LSD, E85.

    Sandown - 1:31.5
    Winton - 1:40.2
    Phillip Island - 1:58.4
    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

    Previously, 2x 504 Wagon, 505 Wagon, 505 STi, 405.

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    We both love the older style look of the wheel and so wanted to make it work with that. We played around one evening with a few different ideas and am excited to see if it pays off.

    Huw went theough the same issues helce all the relays etc to make it all work. Now that its solved as you have eluded to it will work quite well and means we have less wires and switches to run the other things we dont need or have room for on the raptor. (Ign, starter etc).

    Our goal this time around (no jokes required!) is to turn the key before Christmas. We said that last year also mind you!

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    I've got a PDM, so I do have a couple of different ways of skinning that cat, but I ended up doing direct relays into the switch inputs on the PDM. What I should have done (well, I actually have done it, but for another set of buttons) is use these analogue to CAN converters and create a voltage divider array so that the 8 outputs from the raptor go into the 4 inputs, at either 5V or 2.5V. I could then have used the PDM or ECU to listen for that CAN message and be totally customisable as to button purpose.
    Once I got my head around CAN messaging between devices, it turns out to be super useful.

    I've ended up more or less in the same place, but with 3 times the wire count, and 3-4 times the wire length and complexity. Still only small weight penalty though.

    Quote Originally Posted by cam85 View Post
    Huw went theough the same issues helce all the relays etc to make it all work. Now that its solved as you have eluded to it will work quite well and means we have less wires and switches to run the other things we dont need or have room for on the raptor. (Ign, starter etc).
    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, PeugeotSport Baffled Sump, Oil cooler, Quaife LSD, E85.

    Sandown - 1:31.5
    Winton - 1:40.2
    Phillip Island - 1:58.4
    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

    Previously, 2x 504 Wagon, 505 Wagon, 505 STi, 405.

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    Looking good. Get on with it!

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    We are Pete! Theres been no more additions just ploughing through a to do list!
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