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    Default It's a runner again!

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    The power unit went in nicely.

    4x Phillips head screwdrivers helped locate the rear mounting bolt holes as the car was lowered onto the unit which was on a simple cruciform dolly on castors

    That boomerang gizmo is a special air cooled VW tool. A magnetic 17mm spanner that is used to lock the top mounting bolts on Beetle engines. It worked well here too.

    It started up & ran as sweet as a nut but leaked fluid from the heater matrix. I will remove it & see if it's fixable. If not, I'll plug the pipes or run a loop.

    Then a nasty rattle started followed by a bang & the water pump/fan camshaft pulley was on the floor. Oh bugger! I remember removing it to fit the belt but must have forgotten to do up the bolts. Fortunately no damage like sheared bolts or damaged threads. I put it back with Allen head bolts. They were easier to thread in.
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    Aussie Desert Coolers in Thomastown will fix heater cores very reasonably

    If totally stuffed they can make you a new one from scratch

    Run by hairy old bikie, which is always a recommendation. Did 404 radiator and heater core, also 240Z radiator, all very reasonably - if its fixable they fix it, if stuffed they tell you and re-core it or re-make it.

    Quick turnaround too, at least in my experience

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    It's been almost 50 years since I looked into a DG's engine bay.

    Brings back bad memories of no money and dying engines.

    I could go another DG now as I can afford it.

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    Default Whoops! Half shafts are too short?

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    Well I hope you punters are learning from my cock-ups.

    When I went to attach the rear drums there was not enough poking out for the nuts to engage.

    When all else fails, read the instructions. The manual says the rear hubs should be removed & installed with the half shafts attached. The reason is that if one installs the bearing hubs with the halfshafts in situ, all you do is push the axles deeper into the diff thereby running out of thread at the attachment point.

    "Too late, too late she cried as she waved her wooden leg!"

    I didn't even have enough sticking out for the splines to engage so it looked like I had to dismantle everything then do it as per the manual. That means making new paper gaskets, re-sealing etc etc.

    However, the situation could be remedied with a very simple gear puller as per the photos.

    Once I had splines engaged on one side, I could lock that wheel and then use the big nut with washers & a spacer to pull the axle back on t'other side.
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    Default Bleeding Brakes: Cheap'n'Cheerful Pressure System

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    I have been doing this solo for many years. Mrs G stopped her pedal pumping years ago so I've had to get innovative.


    The cheapest thingo I use is a 60ml disposable syringe connected to a plastic pipe which attaches to the bleeder nipple & sucks the fluid out when you pull back the plunger. Works beautifully for simple circuits like a clutch but not positive enough for brakes.

    First I tried an old inner tube from my son's long since gone BMX bike. It worked. SLOWLY. I upped the pressure & it popped. So, onto plan B.

    2 bits of angle cut & drilled to fit over the reservoir as in the photos. A tubeless tyre valve was pulled thru with plenty of rubber glue in the groove that fits the hole. A couple of layers of rubber to cushion the effect of compression by the two M6 bolts and also to make the seal airtight. The air pressure is via a hose with two of the end fittings on those El Cheapo foot pumps. One goes on the reservoir & the other on a wheel which is pumped up to 20psi.

    SAFETY: The reservoir will be pressurised. A bike tube popping is no big deal. A glass bottle exploding is ugly. So: safety goggles always, the reservoir was covered with a heavy towel and was inspected only after the pressure was released.

    It worked very well. I got around all 4 wheels in less than 5 minutes. Pedal was OK. Having 4 flexible brake hoses is a bonus! A small vice grip on each hose gave a rock hard pedal. Releasing one at a time & testing quickly identified the culprit causing the soft pedal. A good long bleed & careful adjustment gave a good firm pedal.

    It's time to fire up & go for a test drive in the big paddock!
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    Brilliant pressure system. Thanks so much for the ideas. I'd not be concerned about the glass bottle blowing up at 20 psi or so. However, the hose system from the bottle to the master cylinder is the weakness I'd have thought. Great description, not least for the method of finding which wheel still has air - that would be really good for the disc braked cars, which can be hard to bleed really well.

    Cheers
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    Default This Is VERY Embarassing

    I've looked online & all I can find is the 3 speed shift pattern for a Dauphine.

    Can someone tell me where reverse is on the 4 speed pattern? I don't want to break anything.

    *hides his face in shame*

    If I remember correctly, I drove it before starting work on it but it was pointing the right way so I didn't need reverse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post

    Can someone tell me where reverse is on the 4 speed pattern? I don't want to break anything.
    Have a look at post #3 here Dauphine Brains Trust
    I think that Simon has the answer you need :-)

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    Got it!

    From neutral hard left ( you can feel the detent spring) then to the rear.

    Test drove quite OK. A bit bouncy but, hey, it was a paddock.

    Next step: start loading for the trip to the body shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geodon View Post

    I have been doing this solo for many years. Mrs G stopped her pedal pumping years ago so I've had to get innovative.

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    I have and explained a few times a similar but better system.

    If your reservoir has a thread (and from what I remember, all Renaults do; your looks like the one I had in my R10, which was like the one my dada had in his R12), you can do away with that complicamacated contraption and use a BMW 2002 brake reservoir cap. That will not pop off and will not leak at pressures up to 6bar. Tested with my trusty el cheapo compressor, not that you need anywhere near that kind of pressure. In fact if you use 6 bar, you will empty out the whole fluid reservoir very quickly when you open the bleed nipple (you've got less than 10 seconds). I found that using 6 bar is necessary when bleeding difficult master cylinders, like the one on my 205GTI (yes, the miraculous BMW reservoir cap fits the Peugeot reservoir as well). In fact I would use one of those instead of the Renault aluminium dodgy cap (the BMW cap still has a pressure equalising hole, so you don't give anything away, and it's plastic, more durable and compliant than the Renault item). These caps are easy to find, brand new on ebay and similar, or you can even go to your local BMW dealer, they still have it in their arts lists (I think they used it all the way to the early eighties when they went to the fluid level sensor cap). Cost pennies.

    For normal bleeding jobs, 2bars of pressure (which is pretty much what you have in your normally inflated wheel of just about any car) is more than enough.

    From there on, the system is almost identical.

    I used a bicycle valve in the reservoir cap because it is threaded all the way and I clamped it with proper nuts, washers and rubber seals, and the hose is permanently attached to it with a clip.

    At the other end, I have the same el cheapo quick release foot pump fitting. I also put in line one of those little plastic taps used in irrigation systems to cut air pressure when I want to. This allows me to disconnect the line at the reservoir end whilst leaving it attached at the wheel end, which is very convenient if I need to top up the fluid during a job. Some cars have very small reservoirs and doing the entire system can empty the reservoir - you don't want that to happen or else you are putting more air back in.

    I use the car's wheel closest to the reservoir simply for convenience and keeping the hose as short as possible. You only lose the air volume needed to fill the hose, and that is not enough to reduce the tyre pressure by a significant amount.
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    Wheels stripped, painted & new tyres fitted. Chinese ones; the Michelins were more than double the cost and whitewalls much more again. The colour was matched to the inboard side of the wheels as the outsides were all done in rattle can silver. It's actually gold with a greenish tinge.

    I made new baffles to fit around the radiator and extended the heater air duct to fit the fan outlet.

    A couple of water leaks: split heat exchanger on the heater & loose water pump bolts. Fixed.

    Transmission oil: loose bolts on the endplate.

    Rear brake hydraulic leak. Curious because the cylinder was re-sleeved & new rubbers. Well I THOUGHT they were new. it turns out the "new" rubbers in the original box weren't! A previous owner saved some old ones by storing them in the orig box!

    I did a test drive in the big paddock for a while. Damn! It's a sporty little bugger. Nice & firm. I'm starting to regret not getting Michelins!

    It's off the body shop soon.
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    Default Dauphine Front Park Lights/Turn Signals

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    I'm doing an audit for lights prior to going to the paint shop.

    I have lights that fit in 2 holes in the front valence panel with 3 self tappers that have amber lenses. They have single filament globes. That strongly suggests turn signals, yes?

    BUT there are 2 wires for each hole: one light, one much heavier implying a combined park/flasher light that SHOULD have a clear lens.

    There is NO provision for park lights in the headlights.

    What's going on??

    I'm thinking a model change. Was there a earlier series that had no front parkers??
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    On an Australian 1961 onwards Dauphine Gordini the amber front blinkers are standard, the parking lights were fitted to the headlamp, in the form of a separate bulb mounted to the plug that connects to the main (P45t base) headlamp globe. The parker bulb uses a hole in the base of the metal surround for the main headlamp globe to allow illumination. Unfortunately not all of the P45t base globes have the hole for the parker light any more, it is mainly a case of going to a patient old school auto electrician with a sample globe, who then sorts through their old 6 volt stock to find suitable globes with the parker hole. Or you can carefully drill a hole in the surround of the globe to allow the parker to illuminate.

    A dual filament globe with a white (clear) parker/blinker lens was fitted to the European market cars, and can be fitted to the base of the existing blinker only base (there are two screw holes in the base for wires. But no bulb contact for the parker, which needs to be fabricated). As well as diverting the parker power wire to the new blinker/parker base. I’m not sure of the legality of orange parkers (some early 1960’s Minis also had them) in a modern context, and also with 6 volts, the blinker may get lost with the parker also illuminating through the same light.

    I like the odd Australian difference with the cars, which is why I like the amber coloured blinkers, and also the Thorpe rear light cluster.
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    Thank you Simon! It makes sense now.

    I'll investigate the two wires and if they are "live" for parking lights & flashers then it appears this car may be a UK import? The inserts I have were obviously sourced from Aussie dauphines.

    I can buy the correct lights for it but at $125 US per pair?!

    The orig headlights are cactus & I've ordered new ones so I may play with the old ones (drill the old reflectors) to see if I can put in a park list fitting easily a la early VW beetles.
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    Default Well! Look what I found!

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    I methodically went thru a carton of headlight paraphernalia and struck gold! Now to make sure the new headlights will take these old fittings.

    Thanks again Simon. It helped enormously to know what to look for!
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    That's good, saves me pulling one out to show what to look for. From the colour of your car, it would be an Australian assembled car.
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    Most likely. The two wires in place for the flasher holes? It could be one was for bumper mounted fog lights?? A Red Herring one comes across during resto's!

    BTW if anyone is looking for 6V relays (to boost lights, wipers, horn etc.) flasher cans & other stuff that's getting hard to get, this place specialises in old British motorcycles & is damn handy and quite cheap! I even recognised some stuff for my 1st bike: a single seat BSA Bantam (AKA the WW2 DKW 125!)

    Search Results -> 6v relay : BMH Trading, Classic Motorcycle Parts
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    Default The day has arrived! Finally!!

    We're off to the body shop for a paint job.

    I want to talk them into a masked up paint job to maintain the interior's originality- it's only done 40K miles!

    My tow vehicle (FG Falcon Mk1) must be jinxed! A kangaroo used the bonnet as a trampoline last week ($300) and after checking the trailer lights Tuesday night, I left the ignition on. When the RACV jump started it next morning, for some reason the fusible link blew. A chat with an auto sparky said they are a cow to replace so, based on his advice, I bypassed it with a home made one & then the ICC (interior Command Centre) went blank so no air, heat or audio! They are about $600 c/o!

    https://www.aslautomedia.com.au/falc...screen-upgrade for those that may have Blue Oval representation- they are a weak point.

    A quick check of the Ford forums suggested I check fuse 28. I did & broke out into a $600 smile.



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