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    Default 1990 BX Estate Manual

    It's time to start some work on the 1990 BX Estate Manual that i obtained a little while back.

    Some images of it arriving back at the location that i keep both BX's, a friends house.

    I live in a small unit with a Getz, V6 Triton and my boulevard motorcycle, so i thank my friend for the use of the under house double carport which they don't utilize.

    I'm in no hurry to get it on the road as it still has a year or so to reach club plates, as i have the Auto BX Estate on the road i can do the fixing of the manual at a steady and relaxed pace.

    Enjoy the images and updates

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    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

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    I have never seen a car so dirty that was still registered, the plates where handed in to Vicroads a few days before i got the vehicle. I suspect the car was owned by someone elderly and cleaning it may have been difficult. I also suspect that the car sat under a tree for years as it is covered in sap. Phoenix is now going to become it's name.


    Some images showing the dirt and yuck. I'm still cleaning leaves out of it weeks later.

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    CitroŽn's that own me

    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
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    The BX in general is a very good car rust wise though it does have some common rust issues. Lucky i have obtained this car when i did as most of those issues are present and are not beyond help, but it does have two rust holes just above the windscreen I'll talk about in another thread.

    The foot wells get rust along the panel seams, why Citroen would place these seams where passengers shoes kick when they get in is beyond me. These images show the repair to the area of two seam rust points and a couple of other circle rust spots in the area. I forgot to take pre-repair photos I've removed the rear side-body strip as the rust was right up to it.

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    CitroŽn's that own me

    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
    -------------------------------------------------------------

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    The clock tray is broken along with one led in the clock, the tray was hanging by it's wire so i've done a quick job to place it secure in it's hole. Think it's doing a good job in not looking broken

    If anyone has a spare tray, clock or both drop us a PM as i'm happy to buy

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    CitroŽn's that own me

    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
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    Unfortunately the only spare clock tray I have is in about a thousand pieces. Mine is glued up and doing a good job at not looking broken too.
    Lovely crackle effect on the rear there!

    Thanks for starting a thread, looking forwards to continuing updates and pictures! Looks much better after a clean!

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    Plasticare in the UK make a grey pigment for the plastic if you tire of that faded look ...
    Plasticare Trim DYE Grey Plastic Rubber Bumper Paint | eBay
    Like Forever Black, a little bottle goed quite a long way. Mask it off to save marking the white paint.
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    Yes it worked wonders on our blue TZi great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    Plasticare in the UK make a grey pigment for the plastic if you tire of that faded look ...
    Plasticare Trim DYE Grey Plastic Rubber Bumper Paint | eBay
    Like Forever Black, a little bottle goed quite a long way. Mask it off to save marking the white paint.
    Looks like a good product thanks for the heads-up.
    CitroŽn's that own me

    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
    -------------------------------------------------------------

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    I attended to the two small rust holes above the windscreen during the last week.

    The before photo = YUCK the after photo = Woohoo

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    I used Septone Metaltech Filler.
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    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
    -------------------------------------------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipperman View Post
    I have never seen a car so dirty that was still registered, the plates where handed in to Vicroads a few days before i got the vehicle. I suspect the car was owned by someone elderly and cleaning it may have been difficult. I also suspect that the car sat under a tree for years as it is covered in sap. Phoenix is now going to become it's name.
    Wow. How often do you see two BX Estates in one place. There were reputedly 6 sold in Perth in total, and the odd one has come in since. I have twice seen two in the same place in about ten years of ownership.

    Do you know the difference between a TRi and a TZi by any chance?

    Nice work - I'd say Phoenix will rise very nicely from the ashes.

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    Visually the easiest ways to pick a TRi from a TZi are that above the rubbing strip on the bumpers of a TZi will be grey rather than body colour, and the TZi protector strips are much thicker and deeper. Other differences aren't so uniform as I think they varied according to shipping batch (I'm happy to be corrected on this). On hatches the TZi's didn't have the c pillar inset windows, the bonnets were metal, and the later ones had the flat front seats akin to the 16 Valves rather the petal moulding. TZi's came with a one-touch driver's window switch and electric rear vision mirrors. In Queensland we saw very few TZi wagons, and given that wagons came from a different factory I don't know if they shared exactly the same specifications as the hatches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Wow. How often do you see two BX Estates in one place. There were reputedly 6 sold in Perth in total, and the odd one has come in since. I have twice seen two in the same place in about ten years of ownership.

    Do you know the difference between a TRi and a TZi by any chance?

    Nice work - I'd say Phoenix will rise very nicely from the ashes.

    Cheers
    I am currently working on a BX in Oz website - link now in my Sig. The TRI and TZI pages are not done as yet. the trim is different such as tweed vs velour etc. he is a quick link on general info on the BX. I am of the understanding that only 103 Estates where sold in Australia, this is by word of mouth though so if any one has the correct info that be great I was told only 20 x 5 years + 3 demonstrators. + with attrition due to accidents, age etc i believe that 25 to 30 only remain today.

    But they do still surprise and pop up from out of nowhere.
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    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipperman View Post
    I am currently working on a BX in Oz website - link now in my Sig. The TRI and TZI pages are not done as yet. the trim is different such as tweed vs velour etc. he is a quick link on general info on the BX. I am of the understanding that only 103 Estates where sold in Australia, this is by word of mouth though so if any one has the correct info that be great I was told only 20 x 5 years + 3 demonstrators. + with attrition due to accidents, age etc i believe that 25 to 30 only remain today.

    But they do still surprise and pop up from out of nowhere.
    Thanks for that. Let me know if you want anything photographed from our TZi Estate for the web page. Of the six sold in WA, most were still going a few years ago. One has died AFAIK but a bloke in Perth has 3 or 4, and one of them is a privately imported diesel estate. Apart from the dashboard plastic (yuck) ours is very good. It's done 210,000 km and had a few of the usual things done (clutch, rear arm bearings, front struts, radiator). It's had a bit of paint refurbishment (the top and the grey highlighted parts and a new windscreen (chips and scratches) but is basically original. Apart from a slight current leak somewhere, which flattens the battery if it isn't used for 3 weeks, it gives new car reliability. We moved furniture today - they are wonderful wagons.

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    Hi John, any photos of your TZI or anyones BX's would be very welcome indeed. I'll make a special thread about the site in a couple days when i have a bit more time

    Feel free to send em when ready to pts2001 @ live.com (remove the spaces . cheers
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    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipperman View Post
    Hi John, any photos of your TZI or anyones BX's would be very welcome indeed. I'll make a special thread about the site in a couple days when i have a bit more time

    Feel free to send em when ready to pts2001 @ live.com (remove the spaces . cheers
    Done.
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    I have a brochure somewhere for the BX...Think it has wagons...oops Estates in it


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    If it's the Australian BX TRi brochure note that the photos do not necessarily accurately represent the specifications of local vehicles - millimetric alloy wheels in the brochure weren't what was fitted to my parents' BX wagon when bought new, and from memory a spec sheet also failed to mention that wagons came with steel rims and plastic hubcaps as standard.


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    Just checked it...and it brought back memories.
    Its all in french and has the stamp of the dealer in Monaco on it.
    We had a BX when we toured Europe in 1988


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    Re Estates
    It has BX14E Evasion, 19D Evasion, 16RS Evasion, 19RD Evasion, 19TRS Evasion, 19TRI Evasion,19TRD Turbo Evasion


    Will try and scan it...unless it's already on the www somewhere???. 37 pages so may take a while to upload


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    Thanks Decca when your ready that be great
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    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
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    Have scanned it as jpegs
    will try to get into a pdf


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    ok cool
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    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
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    Have managed to convert all 39 JPGs into a 7.5MB PDF file.
    If anyone wants a copy of a Fench BX brochure pls PM me

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    Thanks for the file
    CitroŽn's that own me

    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
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    The BX Estate suffers from "Crack Attack" and I've gotten around to removing the hideous sight. These few photo's show the removal of the decayed thin glued on surface back to the vanilla white paint. The job was made fast by the heat produced in curing by blade putty once it reached about 10 mins it just scrapped off instantly followed by a very fine wet & dry sanding. I shall "paint" the new strip of colour back. I also hate the grey so it will be done in satin black which i feel defines the angles better. But that's probably just me.

    1990 BX Estate Manual-crackattack-001.jpg1990 BX Estate Manual-crackattack-002.jpg1990 BX Estate Manual-crackattack-003.jpg1990 BX Estate Manual-crackattack-004.jpg
    CitroŽn's that own me

    - 2008 C5 X7 Tourer (Estate) 2.7 DoubleTurbo Diesel UHZJ - V6.

    CitroŽn's that formally owned me

    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Manual. .. . "Phoenix" - "Donated to Science"
    - 1990 BX TRI Estate Auto. (Traded In)
    - 1987 BX TRI Hatch.

    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Australian Citroen BX - All about the Citroen BX in Oz
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