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    Default 306 S16 - Weekender and 'Light' Track Duties

    Well I bit the bullet and purchased a 306 s16.

    I was originally looking for a GTi6 or a 206 GTi however over the last week or so i had driven a few of each and sadly most were either to expensive or required to much work.

    Then i found this..
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    Ok so its not going to set the world on fire but its complete. So i went down had a look at it and spoke to the owner. Took it for a test drive and this is what i could find, although i will get a Road worthy inspection at work as soon as i can. I plan on getting it club registered as i want to only use it for car meets, the weekend drive and the odd track day.

    Good:
    - Starts first go, runs very smooth no strange noises.
    - Windows go up and down smoothly and without any worrying sounds.
    - Good tyres about 90% tread.
    - No clunks from gearbox, suspension or engine.
    - All dash electrics work.
    - Front and rear wipers work.
    - Low Km's for age.
    - Hatch struts work
    - Central locking works
    - Seller supplying new (Timing belt, pulleys, water pump & some gaskets)
    - No rattles from trims.
    - Alloy spare in complete kit under car.

    Grey Area:
    - Mirrors don't adjust at all. (could just be the switch)
    - Missing service books up until 140ish.
    - Front brakes squeaking but stops fine. (could be just dirt and dust or could need replacements)
    - Handbrake was a bit loose. (could be just cables or could need new rear drums)
    - Drivers seat has a rips. (bolster and base not a big deal)
    - Has an immobilizer fitted. (not standard and unsure if it will be a issue but will remove it asap)
    - Rocker cover leaking oil. (will replace when timing gets done)
    - Standard air box missing. (fitted with a pod filter)
    - Bonnet sound pad torn.
    - A/C needs looking at. (could be just a re-gas or could need more)
    - Exhaust leak (looks like between the cat and the cat-back)
    - Exhaust a bit loud (its been modified)
    - Needs new pedal pads.
    - Carpet is showing wear but its clean without holes.
    - Door lock snibs missing. (easy fix)
    - Seats don't freely slide or return (rails need greasing i think)

    Bad:
    - Front and Rear bumpers have clear peeling
    - L&R headlight trims need respraying as they are chipped esp the LHS)
    - RHS has been keyed (not bad but enough to annoy me)
    - RHR 1/4 Has a dent (might be able to pop out but might not)
    - Rear Spoiler faded.
    - Heater Bypassed (the dreaded heater matrix needs replacement)

    The owner was asking 1000 Neg. i got it for less than half. I'm pretty pleased with the car its 10years old after all.

    Plans:
    - Get Roadworthied.
    - Club Rego.
    - Repaint whats required
    - Remove 1/4 Dent.
    - Small Mods and enjoy it.

    Mods Planned So Far:
    - GTi6 Exhaust manifold. (if its worth modding to fit)
    - GTi6 Intake manifold. (if its worth swapping)
    - MI16 Injectors
    - Stage 1 Cam (intake)
    - Solid Engine Mounts
    - Braided Brake Lines
    - Front 406 Brembo Calipers & 307 Discs
    - Nicer Wheels.
    - Stereo system.

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    The GTi6 exhaust manifold will never fit your engine.

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    Another 6 years before it is eligible for a club permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    The GTi6 exhaust manifold will never fit your engine.
    No cam recommendation?

    If you don't I will.....
    Peters cams are great and i believe your engine is the one he reckons (s16s xu10j4(rfy)) are the best gains on cams due to more desirable geometry.

    Correct me if I'm wrong Peter, it's been a long day...


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    The GTi6 exhaust manifold will never fit your engine.
    I was told that you can fit these - are the ports completely off? i was hoping that they would just be a bolt on, looks like i might need to frankenstein it with an old S16 manifold - do you think that would be ok and then just reweld or is the stock one good enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post
    Another 6 years before it is eligible for a club permit.
    Ah yes i just double checked Vic Roads well looks like standard rego it will be :S

    Quote Originally Posted by Karoshi View Post
    No cam recommendation?
    If you don't I will.....
    Peters cams are great and i believe your engine is the one he reckons (s16s xu10j4(rfy)) are the best gains on cams due to more desirable geometry.

    Correct me if I'm wrong Peter, it's been a long day...
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    If you go cams what would be an ecu that you can use? Previously owning a CRX B16a i know you can chip them and run your own eproms using a writer and free software, is that someone avaliable to Peugeots, unfortunatly i've only had dealership experience with these cars so not many people in Aus tend to go further than modify the cat back exhaust, wheels, springs and CAI
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    There's nothing wrong with the XU10J4 manifold, at the level you're at. It's 4-2-1 design and certainly not a limiting factor in the car's performance. It's an absolute bodge to try and fit the GTi6 manifold. The engine will certainly come alive if you change the inlet cam. Whether you use one of mine or not is entirely up to you. The ECU will tolerate a mild cam but for best results, fit some slightly larger injectors from either a 1.9L 205 or Mi16. Naturally a full ECU swap is the only way to get the most from it. My daily driver is an MI16 XU10J4 with Stage I cam, Haltech ECU and 1.9L manifold. I'm getting ready to put a GTi6 inlet on. The XU10J4 is a great engine, under rated and overlooked by most.

    Don't forget you'll need an LSD and some slightly bigger torsion bars if you want the best driving experience.

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    sounds great to me looks like i had better start looking for bits!
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    Update:

    So i had my inspection and for a 306 with 168,xxx kms its in quite good shape.

    For RWC i need:
    - RHF door seal
    - RHF door check strap pin
    - Top Engine Mount
    - Front Brake Lines
    - Front Shocks
    - Rocker Cover Gasket
    - Exhaust Manifold Gasket
    - LH Washer Jet
    - Mirror Switch (or might be the wiring need to investigate)
    - Rear Wiper washer jet & blade.
    - Spare wheel needs new tyre
    - front crank seal & cam seals leaking

    So all in all its not that bad. So today i took the car into work did a few things.

    - Oil & oil filter service
    - Washer fluids topped up
    - Brake fluid & power steering fluid check
    - Rear wiper deleted
    - Fitted check strap pin

    Ordered:
    - Top Engine Mount
    - L & R Front Shockers
    - Rocker cover gasket
    - Thermostat & gasket
    - Cam seals
    - Crank seal

    So its on the way to getting sorted.
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    It's easy to replace the cam seals when changing the cam(s).

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    Yeah i also have a full timing kit i got with the car so ill do the front all at once.

    how much for one of your cams?
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    UPDATE:

    I got some work done to the Pug today. The mirrors now adjust (the connecter to the switch was loose) and i fixed the check strap.
    Also removed the speakers as they were all blown.

    Now just waiting on parts before more work can commence.
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    UPDATE:

    Parts have arrived:
    - Top Engine Mount
    - L & R Front Shockers
    - Rocker cover gasket
    - Thermostat & gasket
    - Cam seals
    - Crank seal

    Also i have a chipped ECU on the way (thanks MY16) as well as some of PeterT's Stage One Cams.

    After these few items are sorted out the exhaust will be the next thing to upgrade im looking at keeping the standard exhaust manifold so ill be looking at a 2.25" system with a hi flow cat and mufflers.

    slowly coming together
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    Was I supplying the chip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    Was I supplying the chip?
    Nope another aussiefrog has one I edited so there is no confusion
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    I have two. One is labelled "PSA XU10J4 2.0 16s Gr N", the other "Peugeot Sport 306S16 - 405 Mi16 - Xantia 16s - ZX16v". I'll throw a copy of each in with the cams and you can experiment a bit. I have no idea of what changes have been made.

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    Ah thanks for that Peter!
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    UPDATE:

    Lucky me i have managed to convince one of the guys at work to do the timing work for me .
    So this weekend timing belt is getting removed the are cams coming out in preparation for the stg one cams at the same time the tensioner and idler pulleies are getting replaced, top engine mount getting replaced and the water pump is being replaced.
    I've also won a brand new radiator for $26 so i'll have that replaced at the same time.
    Then when the cams arrive they will be fitted with new cam seals and a new front crank seal.

    Then i'll send it down to the dyno and see what power i get - any thoughts of what i might get?

    After the above is completed i'll be looking at the Clutch replaced (any suggestions here?) and then an exhaust system im thinking of a 2.5" High flow cat into a 2.25" cat back system i think a full 2.5"system would be over kill and just make it drone am i on the right track?

    Well thats all for now the hunt continues for more parts...
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    Sorry for hijacking this thread but the 1.9L exhaust manifold on your Mi16 Peter, is that the stainless steel 1.9L Mi16 header ? Thanks Doug
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    There's nothing wrong with the XU10J4 manifold, at the level you're at. It's 4-2-1 design and certainly not a limiting factor in the car's performance. It's an absolute bodge to try and fit the GTi6 manifold. The engine will certainly come alive if you change the inlet cam. Whether you use one of mine or not is entirely up to you. The ECU will tolerate a mild cam but for best results, fit some slightly larger injectors from either a 1.9L 205 or Mi16. Naturally a full ECU swap is the only way to get the most from it. My daily driver is an MI16 XU10J4 with Stage I cam, Haltech ECU and 1.9L manifold. I'm getting ready to put a GTi6 inlet on. The XU10J4 is a great engine, under rated and overlooked by most.

    Don't forget you'll need an LSD and some slightly bigger torsion bars if you want the best driving experience.

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