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    Default 205 off the road again....

    So after being off the road for 2 months, I got the new clutch cable in and the retaining pin made up and installed. It then took two days for the passenger side drive shaft to explode. I was on my way to get my mother a birthday card and head over to the hospital to see my grand father when it happened so it came at a horrible time. Now the reason I think it's the drive shaft is the clutch still works it goes into gear and as soon as you disengage the clutch you can feel what feels like rocks rolling around in the inner cv boot. I have an SI sitting on my front lawn that's for parts and I'm hoping they fit? Does anyone know for sure? Peter T (the god of all information 205) can you help with info.

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    p.s need the car in two weeks, urgent help needed.

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    Yes my son. The Si shaft will fit if you have an early GTi with the smaller 1.6L hubs.

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    The GTI is 89 and the SI is a 91 I'm pretty sure. If I don't have the earlier hubs would it be logical to swap the SI hubs over with the SI drive shafts, so I can go for the 306 brake conversion later down the road?

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    If the hub nuts are "staked" then they're 1.6. If they have an "R" pin they are 1.9. Being '89 yours is most likely 1.6. Thus Si hubs would be a logical upgrade at the same time.

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    Sure you havent blown the diff?
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    You mean if you DO have the earlier hubs?
    You will need to swap to the 306 brakes at the same time you fit the Si hubs.
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    The GTI is 89 and the SI is a 91 I'm pretty sure. If I don't have the earlier hubs would it be logical to swap the SI hubs over with the SI drive shafts, so I can go for the 306 brake conversion later down the road?

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    I really hope I haven't blown the diff. What would more likely go? A diff or a shaft?

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    Probably the diff
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    Ok so I just got under it after a long day of collage and as I wipe the fluid of the diff casing I put my finger through the top of the casing. Defiantly diff.

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    Lots of bananas.

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    What?

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    Banana peels are soft and fiberous and help to hide any nasty sounds while the prospective buyer takes the car for test drive. May not last long enough for the buyer to get it home. Additional saw dust can also help.

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    Sneeky lil devils. I need a new box, what have people got in order of complete boxes?

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    Haven't you got an Si in your front yard? Remove the gearbox from that and take it to Adrian, along with your blown box.

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    SI and GTI are the same? I've got a box lined up. But I approx size a weight for freight? Does Adrian rebuild boxes? If so what's the pricing on that?
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    Si is a BE3, an improvement over the BE1. You would need to change the clutch cable or modify slightly and simply don't use the reverse lock out cable.
    The Si box has wider ratios but the same final drive as the GTi.
    Adrian would put your original BE1 gears into the BE3.
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    SI and GTI are the same? I've got a box lined up. But I approx size a weight for freight? Does Adrian rebuild boxes? If so what's the pricing on that?

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    Si ratios would be hopeless.

    I can give the gearbox you are buying a rebuild or mix and match boxes to give you the best parts.

    email me - [email protected] for pricing

    You will need to lengthen the clutch cable if you go from a BE1 to BE3, i have the extension pieces as well
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    I have a good series one Mi16 be1

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    What are the differences in ratios with th MI boxes? Are they better.

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    Wider ratios except for 1st to second which is closer but they do have a 4.3 final drive instead of 3.9 so still a good box as they will pull well in second gear.
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    What are the differences in ratios with th MI boxes? Are they better.

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    Look at Taylor engineering website for ratios
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    ok so I am hoping I get the gear box by Sunday arvo or Monday morning. what seals/washers/miscellaneous should I replace before I put the new box on?

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    While it's out it's a good idea to do the clutch and rear main seal. Might even be worth looking into lightening the flywheel.

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    Yes, you will be amazed at how light the clutch pedal is with a new clutch.

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    While it's out it's a good idea to do the clutch and rear main seal. Might even be worth looking into lightening the flywheel.

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    the clutch is actually great on it, id love the box to no leak so are there any seals that people don't really bother to change when they can.

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