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    Default Renault Floride/Dauphine reproduction steering wheel...

    I'm about to make a replica steering wheel for my Floride, the same type was used on some of the Dauphines as pictured below.

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    Almost all of the restored Floride steering wheels I have seen have polished aluminium and I have only seen one with gold anodized trims.

    Can anyone confirm whether the aluminium trims were originally gold anodized or polished aluminium or was the gold coloring exclusive to the Dauphine Gordini..?

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    John Brigdens Dauphine Gordini also had the gold centre trims as well from memory, but no idea if they were original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    John Brigdens Dauphine Gordini also had the gold centre trims as well from memory, but no idea if they were original.
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    I spoke with him briefly at Junee and I get the feeling the gold was standard equipment as he had had it re-done.

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    Don't think John was at Junee?

    The car in your photo belongs to Chris H. John has an immaculate prize winning red car. Chris's has also won trophies too though.
    John doesn't enter his car in concours much any more, he has enough trophies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    Don't think John was at Junee?

    The car in your photo belongs to Chris H. John has an immaculate prize winning red car. Chris's has also won trophies too though.
    John doesn't enter his car in concours much any more, he has enough trophies!
    My apologies, it must have been Chris H then and he had gold steering wheel trim.

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    Given the deafening silence from the Renault community I can only surmise that they don't know or can't remember, therefore I can't be judged if I get the color wrong.

    So I am going gold trims because the rest of the dash trims are gold.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    Given the deafening silence from the Renault community I can only surmise that they don't know or can't remember, therefore I can't be judged if I get the color wrong.

    So I am going gold trims because the rest of the dash trims are gold.....
    I honestly don't know but if the rest of the trim is gold....... I'd agree with you. This is one ambitious repro - very impressive.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I honestly don't know but if the rest of the trim is gold....... I'd agree with you. This is one ambitious repro - very impressive.

    Good luck.

    Oh it's not that hard, I've already cast one (from a borrowed wheel) in straight black as a master copy and now I just have to repair and polish it up to use as a final prototype.

    Renault Floride/Dauphine reproduction steering wheel...-003.jpg It's just the gold on aluminium I'm struggling with at the mo..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    Oh it's not that hard, I've already cast one (from a borrowed wheel) in straight black as a master copy and now just have to repair and polish it up to use as a final prototype.

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    I remain pretty impressed!
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    Wouldn't a wheel like this have a steel backbone? Will your reproduction have one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peujohn View Post
    Wouldn't a wheel like this have a steel backbone? Will your reproduction have one?
    But of course it has a steel armature...

    The cracks in the borrowed red and black wheel (above) were wide enough to accurately measure the steel size used by the original maker, and the replica is remarkably robust for it's size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    So I am going gold trims because the rest of the dash trims are gold.....
    The right call for a Floride. The Dauphine Gordini has silver trimming on the wheel to match with the silver trimming on the dashboard. The badges on the exterior are either gold or silver depending on the colour of the car.

    The Floride has the gold trimming on the steering wheel to match with the gold trimming on the dashboard (switches).

    The gold centre trims on the Dauphine Gordini hubcaps are a genuine Renault accessory, not fitted as standard on the Dauphine Gordini.
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    Thanks Simon, even though I have never seen gold steering wheel trims on any of the restored Florides around the internet world it stands to reason they have to be gold.

    I guess others have struggled with replicating the gold coloring too. The original french gold anodising would have worn off or was deliberately polished off when it started to wear away. But I have a couple of ideas to try.

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    Shh, genius at work


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    I claim no genius status old son...I just copy what others before me have done..

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    I agree, but that wont stop me from trying to thrust the status on you

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    Graham,
    Have you considered powder coating the finished product? I have seen a finish that mimics chrome so presume a gold is also available - the whole thing could be masked for the red/black and gold.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    Shh, genius at work

    Agreed, G is the Master
    cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    Shh, genius at work

    Quote Originally Posted by J-man View Post
    Agreed, G is the Master
    Oh please, rise my Grasshoppers, this may get embarrassing, especially if it all goes pear shaped. I have a few hurdles to jump before I nail this thing, namely casting a wheel in two colors simultaneously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    Graham,
    Have you considered powder coating the finished product? I have seen a finish that mimics chrome so presume a gold is also available - the whole thing could be masked for the red/black and gold.

    Cheers
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    GB,

    I think I have solved the gold ring dilemma ...Renault Floride/Dauphine reproduction steering wheel...-gold-trims.jpg..I found these little pearlers on ebay, gold stainless steel no less. They are, of course, to cover the join in the different colored sections of the steering wheel.

    This one is a cast copy of the borrowed red/black wheel shown above (thanks for the loan Bruce, will return it soon) and is being repaired with epoxy puty to remove the cracks and blemishes from 50 odd years of service so a mould can be made from it.

    But the real challenge will be casting two colors simultaneously without intermixing.Renault Floride/Dauphine reproduction steering wheel...-3873974115_dd58acf6da_o.jpg
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    MARK I The above black wheel was cast in epoxy resin in a simple 2 piece plaster mould, epoxy patched, sanded and polished. So I decided to paint it as well to see how it would look. And I'm impressed that it looks so good, the 4 gold stainless steel rings found on ebay look pretty good. The centre piece, also found on ebay (at great expence..) was recolored in red and is a little warped from 50 odd years of sun and heat, so the Mark II centre piece will need to be recast and straightened.

    But all in all I'm delighted and surprised that after 4 years of wanting, I now have a brand new Floride steering wheel. Really it is good enough to use on a hobby car as is because I think the paint would last for a long time and I'm sure most restored Floride steering wheels are painted as well, but I am committed to casting mark II in two colors without any need for painting.


    In the next couple of weeks I'll show a few more 'how to' pics for those wanting to go the same route.

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    Very nice Master G


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    I'm going to have to start throwing some money your way and just buy all your Mark I's
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    Of course temptation got in the way of other activities and I had to have a Trial run with a proper Floride wheel...
    couldn't get the satisfied look off my dial, had to buy some lemons to suck on.


    The trouble is I will now have to fit my re-gilded switches and other gold bits to match, and my next project will be restoring my old original instrument cluster as this one will no longer do..sorry J-man

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    Quote Originally Posted by 63-1092 View Post
    I'm going to have to start throwing some money your way and just buy all your Mark I's
    I have a shed full of them just waiting...

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