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    Default Ross's new Dauphine Racing Car

    Hi All,

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    Ross is back to completing his Dauphine race car. It is going to be a beast! A 16TS motor, big brakes Queron wide mudgaurds etc.

    I saw him twice in the last 2 weeks and reminded him to take pictures and flaunt it on AF. He has forgotten to take pictures of the project so far!!!

    Maybe we can remind him this way that others would like to see it as well.

    So if you would like to see it, add to this thread and maybe we can pulse his memory back to life again.

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    Young enough to do it anyway.

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    Onya Ros,

    We can never have too many Renaults and we can never have too many pics to share.

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    Something like these ones
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    Right hand column 4th from top is his old one.

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    That was pure arse finding that one.
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    G/DAY ROSS,
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
    Cheers Peter.

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    Thanks Frans

    Not really much to report since my last post (lost in the crash) but now the GTA is out of the way it is my prime focus

    Squirted a bit of paint around, used enamel for the first time and very pleased with the results. Fitting up panels at the moment in preparation for the exterior paint which will be yellow again.

    Still lots to go, all a bit daunting really but Frans is building the engine which is a big help and the gearbox (R16 internals) is ready to go. I have all the bits for the big brakes and the modified suspension is nearly ready. Seats and harnesses have been fitted and mounting points welded in. So big jobs left are painting, wiring, plumbing. And of course lots of little jobs.
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    Very nice, Ross. One of the best looking Renaults too, but I guess that hints my age.

    The rear mudguards don't seem attached to the body at the leading lower point. Is there anything missing there?
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    Very Nice Ross,

    Gives me lots of inspiration for mine.

    Thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    Very nice, Ross. One of the best looking Renaults too, but I guess that hints my age.

    The rear mudguards don't seem attached to the body at the leading lower point. Is there anything missing there?
    Yes there are little winglets below the rear doors that have yet to be fited
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    Love it Ross very exciting to see a Dauphine transformed. I can only dream about doing that so i'm loving watching you do your Dauphine and can't wait for further updates as you go
    cheers,

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    More, more Dauphines. I need the inspiration to get on with mine

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    it looks good.I look forward to seeing when I come over for the world cup later this year.
    I am also keen to see how the BIG g/box will work as I now want to start building mine.
    I shall have to get the info from Frans and learn from his mistakes.
    hopefully the Matra will also be in NZ by then.
    At the moment we are waiting for the export permit problems to be solved
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    it looks good.I look forward to seeing when I come over for the world cup later this year.
    jimmy

    Hi Jimmy, AT LAST a good reason for the World Cup, Jimmy comes back to NZ. So far that's the only good outcome from the billions spent on a stupid rugby competition the country can't afford and very few people want!

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    Default A little bit more progress

    Chipping away at it, I needed to get the holes cut in the bonnet before paint so that meant mounting the radiator, fan shroud and ducting so that the holes were cut in the right place. I am using a VW/Audi radiator only because it is the right size and its light. Brace behind the ducting stiffens up the ducting and the inner guards and still leaves room for the petrol tank. I tried to keep the holes in the bonnet as far forward as possible so that they were in the low pressure area but the angle of the ducting meant they were a bit further back than I really wanted. Holes in the lower front panel are for brakes ducts. Turning down the lip around the bonnet holes was time consuming but it looks a whole lot better than a raw cut edge and has the added benefit of stiffening up the whole bonnet. Photos attached.
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    Hello Ross, was it you that had that interesting "no roll stiffness" swing axle rear suspension Dauphine that Frans mentioned once pre-crash?

    cheers! Peter

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    Yes thats me, its a concept used by the Formula Vees for many years and you can achieve it in many ways (zed bars, transverse leaf springs, etc). I have gone for a floating top link, no idea if it will work but we will soon find out.
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    Thought that it was you.

    I couldn't see how to readily mount a Z bar so I use the transverse leaf arrangement (a kit as sold in the 70's by a Melbourne dealer - John Ould Motors - for a modified R10 they sold called the '10 GT'; I bought their last two spares).

    However it is supplementary & not the only springing medium so there is still roll stiffness from the coils. Your solution is more work but better. My understanding of the camber compensator leaf is that it works by applying a downward levering force half way along the tube (while adding some stiffness in bump without extra roll stiffness).

    cheers! Peter

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    While we're on the subject of rear swing axles, could someone please tell me if there is any advantage (or disadvantage) in shortening the axle restraining straps on my (road going) R10.

    Cheers, Henry

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    Yeah, I would like the answer to that question too?

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    Yeah, I would like the answer to that question too?
    Also is there a 'big' advantage in running the dual shockers (as in the R8G) as opposed to the single?

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    my two bobs' worth on this would be:

    on straps: less tuck-under but also less supple following of patchy C-roads' surfaces. I wouldn't bother unless you were smooth-circuit racing.

    on dampers: probably not unless you were having an extended fang on rough surfaces. One R8G red Koni classic works well on my 4CV (which is fanged daily on C-roads but not very rough ones) & fade is not an issue in these conditions.

    cheers! Peter

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    I have no experience with standard height springs but if you are lowering your 4CV/Dauphine/R8/R10 there is a huge advantage in shortening those swing axle straps. No tuck under, better handling and very predicable. The only disadvantage is you will tend to pick up the inside wheel under hard cornering which will delay getting on the power on exit
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    I was told by the guy that used to be the Koni specialist, now migrated to the West Island, that the only reason he could see for twin shocks was that there was no suitable shock with the desired spec available when the factory (for the 8g) and Alpine for the A110 went that way. His advice was get a good Koni.

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    mecaparts' short straps are 33.5 cm long and their long ones are 39.55

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