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    Default Renault 8/10/12 timing cover gaskit - problems

    Hi all,

    The usual suppliers report the timing cover gaskit for the 810 series motor is NLA. It does not even make an appearance in the engine overhaul gaskit set!!!

    Does anyone have one surplus to requirement? I have a partially assembled motor on which all progress stalled over Christmas for want of this part. And, I have another such motor waiting to be done.

    If anyone has the said gaskit but does not want to part with it could I kindly ask that they take a measurement re the thickness let me know. I will fabricate one.

    All the best

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    I may still have one. I will have a look for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exfrogger View Post
    Hi all,

    The usual suppliers report the timing cover gaskit for the 810 series motor is NLA. It does not even make an appearance in the engine overhaul gaskit set!!!

    Does anyone have one surplus to requirement? I have a partially assembled motor on which all progress stalled over Christmas for want of this part. And, I have another such motor waiting to be done.

    If anyone has the said gaskit but does not want to part with it could I kindly ask that they take a measurement re the thickness let me know. I will fabricate one.

    All the best

    Peter
    I'm sure I have several. You just mean the curved cork one under the timing chain cover, nothing else?

    I could dig one out and post it I'm sure. No-one you know driving from Perth soon?

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I'm sure I have several. You just mean the curved cork one under the timing chain cover, nothing else?

    I could dig one out and post it I'm sure. No-one you know driving from Perth soon?

    Cheers
    Right, down to the garage and pulled out pile of gaskets. Rude shock!!

    I have two of the Ventoux motor timing cover gaskets, a complete oval in cork, 3.3 mm thick.

    I have only one of the Sierra motor timing cover gaskets, a rubberised cork compound half circle (but funny shape) 1.5 mm thick. It fits beneath the timing cover and mates up with the sump gasket and the half round rubber gasket that sits in the sump cutout.

    Therefore I can't offer to send it, as it seems it is my only spare and I'd better hang onto it as a template for myself and others. However, I could trace it for you if you need a template. Come to think of it, I could scan it with a ruler beside it!!

    It doesn't matter too much if you use something that is a bit thicker than 1.5 mm, depending upon what you can get hold of.

    Let me know how I can help.

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    Hi Mr P.
    In later model Renault, where the Siera motor was used, they didn't use a gasket, just a good smear of the white Renault liquid gasket. A compound mix of silicone based glue. Mitsi have the same stuff and there are some after market suppliers.

    I have used it to good success in the past. Works well on the sump as well.

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    As Ray said, liquid gasket works well. Same goes for silicon based gasket maker. Uno Turbo's use them as sump gasket with success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Hi Mr P.
    In later model Renault, where the Siera motor was used, they didn't use a gasket, just a good smear of the white Renault liquid gasket. A compound mix of silicone based glue. Mitsi have the same stuff and there are some after market suppliers.

    I have used it to good success in the past. Works well on the sump as well.

    Ray geckoeng
    Good idea, much better than my suggestion. There's a good range of such materials and the gasket thickness isn't critical. Good for the two mating corners as well.

    I've just used a speedi-sleeve on the crankshaft pulley too - lovely things which I hadn't come across and perfectly fix the inevitably scored face where the seal rubs. Readily available from Bearing Service Company.

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    Thanks guys,

    Call me old fashioned but I'm not such a fan of the form-a-gaskit approach. I always wonder what becomes of the material that get squeezed out on the inside. A gaskit and a judicious lick of permatex has always been my approach.

    But desperate times call for desperate measures..

    I'll await the results of VWMs search before I go the Big Gloop...

    All the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exfrogger View Post
    Thanks guys,

    Call me old fashioned but I'm not such a fan of the form-a-gaskit approach. I always wonder what becomes of the material that get squeezed out on the inside. A gaskit and a judicious lick of permatex has always been my approach.

    But desperate times call for desperate measures..

    I'll await the results of VWMs search before I go the Big Gloop...

    All the best

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    So would it help if I scanned the one I have, with a scale, and emailed you the image?

    Cheers
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    Thanks JW and all the rest.

    I followed sound advice went to Coventrys and asked about what sort of goos they had for forming gaskit. The had no definitive answer, well none that gave me any confidence they knew what I was talking about. But they did have some ruberised cork compound. They said some 'some of the boys' made gaskits out of it...

    Fine said I, and bought it. With a marker a pair of dividers and straight edge I made a passable gaskit whick I sealed in place with a goodly smear of Permatex.

    That could've been a whole lot easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exfrogger View Post
    Thanks JW and all the rest.

    I followed sound advice went to Coventrys and asked about what sort of goos they had for forming gaskit. The had no definitive answer, well none that gave me any confidence they knew what I was talking about. But they did have some ruberised cork compound. They said some 'some of the boys' made gaskits out of it...

    Fine said I, and bought it. With a marker a pair of dividers and straight edge I made a passable gaskit whick I sealed in place with a goodly smear of Permatex.

    That could've been a whole lot easier.
    Either way, it's done, which is good. That rubberised cork is quite good too.

    Cheers
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