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    Quote Originally Posted by 62Caravelle View Post
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    Thank you. Hope to hear some good news from you in a week.

    Sorry, got the call and nothing there.

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    Hi everyone. The Caravelle is back on the road. I got the gear stick repaired. Pinned and welded and is working well, I just have to be a bit more gentle with the gear changes. Look forward to seeing you at the Victorian Renault Round-up.

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    Good news, can you expand on how/who did the repair.
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    I was watching the news tonight about the Christchurch bushfire and they interviewed a couple who had lost their house and classic car collection. Among the footage was a HQ (possibly a Monaro coupe) and another car that I didn't catch but what caught my eye was the unmissable shape of a Caravelle rear end. I think it had a hardtop, but I was more focused on the bootlid and tailight bases and it was only a quick glimpse. Channel 7 Sydney.

    Edit still from video. Other car is possibly a Datsun 260z (most probably based on the rear end, not a 240z) and the HQ is indeed a coupe, the side is visible in the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    I was watching the news tonight about the Christchurch bushfire and they interviewed a couple who had lost their house and classic car collection. Among the footage was a HQ (possibly a Monaro coupe) and another car that I didn't catch but what caught my eye was the unmissable shape of a Caravelle rear end. I think it had a hardtop, but I was more focused on the bootlid and tailight bases and it was only a quick glimpse. Channel 7 Sydney.

    Edit still from video. Other car is possibly a Datsun 260z (most probably based on the rear end, not a 240z) and the HQ is indeed a coupe, the side is visible in the video.
    Woe. Terrible given the earthquake horrors of the last couple of years.
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    I saw the same vision, spotted the HQ Monaro then the back of the Caravelle completely destroyed. One of my worst fears in fire season. Although he may have had insurance it it not possible to replace such gems. Lets hope he and the family are able to eventually move on from such a disaster.

    My best wishes to all involved.

    Maybe our fellow NZ froggers, Frans or Henry may know of the car/owner ?

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    I think the surname was Gordon (or a variation of that name).
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    I'm surprised to see this car in Christchurch. I have not previously seen or heard of a Floride/Caravelle in this area, not at shows or on the road.
    Just goes to show, you never really know what's out there.

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    Gear stick was pinned and welded at Burbs Engineering in Ringwood, just up the road from Alpine Affair. Seeing the Caravelle in the tread above makes my gear stick problem a minor mishap. Hope the family is O.K., but you never want to see any classic cars end that way.
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    Great!
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    We call it a Floride but it's good these higher prices are regularly being asked for.

    $14,998 USD translates to $19,551 AUD

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/x/x/x/1927942.html



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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    We call it a Floride but it's good these higher prices are regularly being asked for. $14,998 USD translates to $19,551 AUD
    I think that for far too long people have expected Renaults to be inexpensive/cheap. These are classic cars, quite rare, and too often prices are talked down. Look at what you'd pay for an immaculate "non-French" car of the same era. Let us start with VW Combi prices. Maybe not.... Anyway, you get the point.

    I could proceed to "what would a near-unique R8 R1130 be worth" but it is not for sale. Our daughter would disinherit us if we sold it.

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    Interesting, that Hemmings write up.

    Heavy steering??? Must have been the tyres or tyre pressures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Interesting, that Hemmings write up.

    Heavy steering??? Must have been the tyres or tyre pressures.
    Remember they're yanks, any car without power steering was considered to have heavy steering and they're comparing to today's standards not those of the 50's.
    Bit like in Aus now, a micro-car with a one litre motor and weighing under a tonne has to have power steering or people won't buy them.
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    Illinois Caravelle ( or Floride)

    I have also been interested by this car for a friend.
    I have stored the full set of 49 pictures HERE
    https://www.autotitre.com/forum/rec....jet&auteur=&ok

    my experience is that american Internet dealers are ready to negociate
    We bought a Caravelle S ( Here Floride S ) originally at $ 18 000 and finally sold at $10 000
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    Caravelle - Auctions sale price of 12,600 Euros

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    Well that's it, I'm putting my Floride up for sale, who want's it..?

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    Auction are becomming crazy here
    I do not know the exact reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber-PAPY View Post
    Auction are becomming crazy here I do not know the exact reason
    Interesting isn't it? It looks to me as if 4CV prices are higher in UK than Australia, from the latest magazine.

    I've always thought Caravelles were under-priced for such lovely little cars. Maybe it is that they are now more than 50? Who knows though, as it only takes a few people competing at a couple of auctions for the sell prices to be high.

    You'd be interested that a Caravelle has just appeared in Perth from South Africa, silver-grey, with genuine knock-off wire wheels, which I've never seen before on a three-stud Renault. It came also with interesting structural repairs, and they are being rectified properly. Were REAL knock off wheels an available accessory on Caravelles?

    Hope all's well with you all.
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    knock-off wire wheels

    They have never been a factory built equipment
    They were not on the accessory ťquipment listed by RENAULT and available in the RENAULT After Sales shop

    The list of these accessories is a book called PR900, available for free here
    http://c.papy.free.fr/autotitre/original/PR900.pdf
    Be carefull with the prices: They are in FRANC but Belgium Franc.
    So divide the price by ten to get it in French Franc
    Conversion rate is 10 Belgium Franc from 1970 worth like actual Australlin Dollar


    The most famous manufacturer is Robergel



    Robergel Wheel for Caravelle was not really " Knock-off"
    They used the original nuts

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    Hi guys, I am struggling to work out what gearbox numbers (3 & 4 spd) were originally supplied with the Floride R1092?

    Is right that the engine was a 690-5 the same as the Dauphine Gordinis?

    I couldn't cross reference this but it shows a 316?? type gearbox?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    Hi guys, I am struggling to work out what gearbox numbers (3 & 4 spd) were originally supplied with the Floride R1092?

    Is right that the engine was a 690-5 the same as the Dauphine Gordinis?

    I couldn't cross reference this but it shows a 316?? type gearbox?
    Further to the question, I have found some info looking through workshop/part manuals.
    This is what I have relevant, I guess I could/should include R8, R10 and 4cv.

    Code:
    Model			Rnum	Engine			Gearbox
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    Floride 		R1092	688|689 (690-05?)	316|318|330
    Floride S		R1131	689-01|689-02 (670-05?)		318
    Caravelle		R1131	688
    Caravelle S		R1133	688-02|688-03
    Corrections/Additions/Clarification greatly appreciated...
    Thanks..

    (unconfirmed) from 1st post
    Code:
    Model			Rnum	Years		Engine	cc	gb
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    Floride			R1092	1952-1962	670-5	845cc	3 or 4 speed
    Floride S/Caravelle	R1131	1962-1963	689-02	956cc	4 speed
    Caravelle 1100/S	R1133	1964-1965	688-03	1108cc	4 speed
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    On page 1 of this thread in post 9 the chart there lists the engine numbers. Not sure on gearboxes but if you go through the earlier pages you may find something there.
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