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    Found this in the DRIVE.COM.AU site;

    "With the recent relaunch of the Renault marque in Australia, it will be interesting to see whether there's a resurgence of interest in Renault's older models.
    Stranger things have happened, and it's also true that some of Renault's earlier cars have a faithful following in this country.

    The Renault 16 is still revered as a cutting-edge design and a ripping drive in the bargain, and older 8s and 10s have their admirers, too. The 12 isn't exactly missed by many, but there are some who will sing its praises.

    But later Renaults never seemed to capture the public's attention, and cars like the 25, 19 and the utterly unloved 21 are just curiosities these days.

    But that doesn't explain where that leaves the Fuego.

    In fact, it is probably fair to say that the Fuego was a car that polarised opinion at the time and continues to do so today.

    When the Fuego landed in Australia in 1982, its looks were far and away its most controversial aspect.

    There are plenty of 1980s wedges and straight lines in the overall styling theme, but it is the details that stamp it apart. The blacked-out trim pieces, integrated spoiler and fog lights and the wrap-around rear window all helped make it a standout in its heyday, but equally stamp it as an older car today.

    Inside, the quasi space-age thing doesn't work any longer and the cloth trim that might have been OK in Europe will probably have disintegrated under nearly two decades of Aussie UV radiation.

    The paint, too, hasn't fared too well under our sun and metallics such as charcoal and silver, as well as red cars, have either faded or have been resprayed.

    Launched in 1982 as the GTX, the Fuego was more or less a three-door, sportier-looking version of the Renault 18. In any case, it retained a certain French-ness in its mechanical layout.

    While the rest of the world was turning engines east-west to make the most of front-drive, the Fuego was, in fact, front-wheel-drive but used a longitudinally-mounted engine.

    At 2.0 litres, the engine itself was classic Renault stuff with a single overhead camshaft and wet-sleeve liners forming the cylinders.

    The single carburettor seems a bit pedestrian in 2001 but the engine was all alloy and cranked out 77.5kW, which was just over the magic 100 horsepower barrier.

    As such, the performance that was pretty good in its day is still quite OK now, even though a few of those horses may have strayed over the years. The engine is, however, relatively strong and smooth to use as well as being pretty flexible in the best French tradition.

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    Combine that with the lithe 1,060kg kerb weight and the fact that there was no automatic option, and the car's spritely performance is explained.

    The car's first facelift and its greatest claim to fame arrived in 1984. As well as a mild make-over, the Fuego became the first car in Australia to have standard remote-control locking. Named the PLIP system after the inventor Paul Lipschutz, the word quickly entered the language and, even today, people all over Australia refer to their TV remote control unit as the "plipper".

    If you know anything about Fuegos, you may have wondered why such a high percentage of them have aftermarket alloy wheels fitted. Well, in a stroke of French-ness the average Gaul would be proud of, Renault, in conjunction with Michelin, took the amazing decision to fit the Fuego with a wheel that would accept only a specific (and expensive) Michelin tyre.

    Exactly why the world has stuck with imperial (inches) measurements for rim sizes is a moot point, but that didn?t stop Renault specifying a metric-sized rim for the Fuego, which, of course, no other tyres would fit.

    So, after 50,000km or so, many owners found it cheaper to replace the wheels and tyres, rather than buy the expensive Michelin replacements for the standard wheels.

    With that in mind, any Fuego you look at buying is a better bet if the standard wheels have been replaced.

    Make sure you check everything else, too, because most Fuegos have now comfortably passed 200,000km, with many having clocked up much more. True, the engine is a better bet to go the distance, but that doesn?t mean they never wear out, so check it carefully yourself or have a mechanic run a professional eye over any prospective buy.

    Ultimately, the Fuego no longer offers anything in the way of a cutting-edge driving experience, which is what made it remarkable nearly 20 years ago.

    But it isn't without its charm and it?s certainly an alternative to the generally bland Japanese offerings from the same era and the same price bracket.


    What to pay;
    The best news is that Fuegos now fetch between $3,000 and $5,000 for anything from a decent example to a really tidy one. Make sure you buy one with a roadworthy certificate, though, because parts can be expensive."

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    Gee, that's more complimentary than some of the original reviews!

    Totally agree with the 16 though..... :p
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    I agree. I've wanted a 16TS (and even better, a 16TX with 5 speed and twin headlights) for ages. Any 16 is pretty rare over here in WA though...

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    "...The 12 isn't exactly missed by many, but there are some who will sing its praises..."

    Peter McKay mallet 25/10/01
    I can't understand why the 12 is so underappreciated?

    Still, it's a bonus for those of us who DO appreciate them. Plenty were sold here and that means there you can always pick them up really cheap. The R12 would have to be THE best of the cheapies imo. Bar none. approve

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    A yellow rusted bush-beaten 16 with about 3 matresses on the roof was stopped at the lights infront of the Renault dealership today....to the amusement of a couple of us. Looked like something straight from Africa

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    I was once offered 3 R12s, one good and 2 spares cars, for free. THe only reason I didn't get them was that the only trailer I could get the use of had no brakes, and the only tow vehicle I had the use of had marginal brakes to start with. Oh, and they were at the top of the BIG hill at Longley, on the Huon Road. And there is also the Southern Outlet to negotiate too. SCARY!!!
    On another note, I was looking at the Veteranen-Fischer website in Germany tonight, and I saw a 16TX for 1,800 Euros. Talk about cheap!!!
    On the same site was an early TS for about 5,000 Euros.
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    But later Renaults never seemed to capture the public's attention, and cars like the 25, 19 and the utterly unloved 21 are just curiosities these days.
    It really is a shame that these Renaults were not more popular. They are so good. The aussies dont realise how much Renault you get in these models thats all. 2_cents

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    [/QUOTE]It really is a shame that these Renaults were not more popular. They are so good. The aussies dont realise how much Renault you get in these models thats all. 2_cents [/QB][/QUOTE]

    You're right Daniel, the problem was that aussies didn't get a decent dealer network after Renault pulled out.

    Little promotion, poor marketing and second rate distribution network all add up to a big turn off.

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    Bogmaster for once i totally agree with you man that era of Renault was woefull... cry

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