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    Icon5 Feugo turbo motor into gtx body???

    I have a 1985 renault feugo. i recently had a electrical glitch which caused the cooling fans to stop working, which resulted in a overheat, and as the chain reaction continued... a worped head. As the engine is rather fatigued i am thinking of replacing it, and i am wondering if the turbo model engine will bolt straight in... or will i have to replace the running gear.... or worst case senario will it not even fit????

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldenFreak
    I have a 1985 renault feugo. i recently had a electrical glitch which caused the cooling fans to stop working, which resulted in a overheat, and as the chain reaction continued... a worped head. As the engine is rather fatigued i am thinking of replacing it, and i am wondering if the turbo model engine will bolt straight in... or will i have to replace the running gear.... or worst case senario will it not even fit????

    Simple answer is, a Fuego turbo motor will fit - problem is in sourcing a Fuego Turbo motor in Australia - Turbo's were mainly imported to New Zealand, the UK, USA and Argentina to namea few - There has been a lot of posts re putting in other motors from other renaults - mainly as larger capacity engines with EFI.

    Without knowing further what you are seeking to achieve its hard to give a definitive answer.?

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    The other thing maybe worth noting, this turbo motor Ken speaks of, wasn't available in Aus, and reports from overseas are that the smaller 1.6L turbo compared to the normally aspirated 2.0L was little difference in performance (except the turbo lag)

    As Ken also mentioned, the more attractive engine mod in Aus to most Fuego owners would be the head / engine from an EFI motor, R21 or R25 etc, of which in addition a turbo manifold / ECU will 'bolt on'. The 'turbo bits' most likely sourced overseas also.

    Other Aussie-Froggers have a more intimate knowledge of this conversion.

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    and creaing an exhaust manifold to ack a turbo on to force air through your carbi wouldnt be a stupidly costly exercise..

    Still recon a shaved block with high compression and trumpets of some description would be so much more fun tho

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    Convert to 2.2 litre EFI power

    And as it just so happens....

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    I reckon a super charged 2l fuego with R21 head and pipes would rock.
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    If you used an R21 Turbo motor, all the hard manifold work and such has already been done, and they go quite hard standard. I was given a ride in a modded one when in Europe, with 4 adults loaded, and it was impressive. I think he said it "only" had 270 Hp.

    These motors go cheaply in England, although freight would come in at $500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan moore
    If you used an R21 Turbo motor, all the hard manifold work and such has already been done, and they go quite hard standard. I was given a ride in a modded one when in Europe, with 4 adults loaded, and it was impressive. I think he said it "only" had 270 Hp.

    These motors go cheaply in England, although freight would come in at $500.
    Ahhhh,Fuego dreaming. If you wanted to get a 2L turbo rego'd,you probably would want to get a UN1 box whilst you were at it, and some 4x disk brakes, and then get some drive shafts made up to fit, and you will need to enlarge your fuel system with new lines and have a new tank pickup fabricated, you will need to mess with the exhaust secondry to fit gearbox mounts,and definatly strengthen the Ps engine mount.You might want to modify the radiator to alow the plumbing for the intercooler and pipes,and you would probably be prudent to go efi and limit the power in lower gears like the Lotus do with the UN1 box.Better suspention components too, to handle the power
    Id be guessing that you would have to spend in excess of 8K to pull that off.(Not including labour).
    The obvious mod for you to do at this time is to get just a R21 head and EFI components and put that on.the fuego rockets with that setup.I can answer any specific questions you may have,as I only did it about six month ago.
    (No, Im not selling a r21 head ) Jo

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    Jo,

    I am still really suprised you dont have mixture problems in extreme heat or cold.

    My understanding is that the stock R21 ECU has some tolerances, but 'bolting them on' to a Fuego 2.0L block would (I would have thought) put things way out such as mixture in extreme temperatures.

    Do you have any plans to put a programmable aftermarket ECU in it?

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    Absolutely.Thats why I just bought fuego red, as a courtesy car whilst I'm doing the install and tune.the rego runs out on both cars by april,so will need to have the tune finished by then,or else I'll have two dumps out of rego.
    I'm leaning towards the EMS stinger, as it suits my budet,and appears to be able to use the fuego TDC sensor,and all other sensors on the motor.The only trouble I have with the tune of the motor now is a slight lumpyness with a few dead spots on gentle acceleration.Runs like a dream at full throttle though.I dont think my pod knows what extreme cold is and it runs great in the heat.There are a few non R21 parts, like crumby door fuel pump,R?? fuel pressure limiter,so I never really bothered geting this system to run well as I was always going to get the aftermarket computer, as stage 2 of the mods.Having said that, I dont think the carby fuego would keep up with this car now, and if it did, It would be sucking sooooo much juice that it would have to stop and refuel long before i did. if I actually pull off an ecu upgrade, you'll certainly read about it on the forum.
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    thanx for all the tips......think i will go with the R12 motor.... any further advise???

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldenFreak
    thanx for all the tips......think i will go with the R12 motor.... any further advise???
    Do you mean the R21 motor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid
    Do you mean the R21 motor?

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    He could mean an R12 motor Fuego TL models had the 1300 Seirra motor
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    yeh sorry R21!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon
    He could mean an R12 motor Fuego TL models had the 1300 Seirra motor
    Well, you learn something every day.. I wonder how they would go turbocharged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid
    Well, you learn something every day.. I wonder how they would go turbocharged.

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    Probably about as well as a standard 2L fuego,but use less juice.I've been toying with the idea of dropping a little jap donk with about 85hp into the fuego.it would handle even better than the 2l as would be significantly lighter, and the fuel economy would be great.You'd be able to move the whole drive train further back too.
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    I've always wanted to drive a Fuego TL, I'm sure it would feel really strange having the R12 motor buzzing along in front rather than the big 2 litre!
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