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    Default Bid ended, but it was a nault Safrane Bi-Turbo V6 on ebay...

    I know a lot of renault dudes would love a car like this, hell I reckon they are a nice machine... 4wd twin turbos and V6... renault should have a car like this again.....

    Renault Safrane Bi-Turbo V6

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

    Winning bid: EUR 6,800.00
    (Approximately £4,607.21)

    Ended: 05-Dec-05 09:37:44 GMT
    Start time: 28-Nov-05 09:37:44 GMT
    History: 55 bids (EUR 3,500.00 starting bid)



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    Dam, it's LHD.
    Pity it was a 94, rules it out of basic import too.Pre-88 you could of had it here for around $16,000 but the conversion would run to a bit too much I'd wager.
    What a lovley car though, leather interior and it is a manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covert
    renault should have a car like this again.....
    They probably would if they could sell more than a handful.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon
    They probably would if they could sell more than a handful.......
    May-be a little help from a Japanese monster(same stable now) of sorts??
    http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30415
    ......shared platforms or drivetrains?? May-be a rebirth of the GTA lineage??......2007 Safrane coupe??
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    Quote Originally Posted by HONG KONG PUGGY
    May-be a little help from a Japanese monster(same stable now) of sorts??
    http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30415
    ......shared platforms or drivetrains?? May-be a rebirth of the GTA lineage??......2007 Safrane coupe??
    Maybe, but if it follows that route it could also end up as the Lexenesque or Novaesque poor cousin of the original.....

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    Sort of off-topic, but in the Australian today it was reported that Renault are actually interested in buying Jaguar. If that goes through, it'll set the cat amongst the pigeons!
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    Are there many RHD biturbo's out there in europe or was it just a LHD only model?

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    A nice one to put onclub rego

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    Hot damn, thats a nice ride Limo luxery and Rex killing zoom. Mmmm..... Bloody cheap too. Wish they came in right hand drive
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    Pitty it looks so bland. I wonder if it looks better in the flesh

    The R25 Turbo looks far more stylish

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    I like the styling - very restrained. Looks neat and sedate - until blasts past you at warp speed

    Its my favorite style of car - neat, comfy and capable. No look at me gimmicks of any sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon
    and Rex killing zoom.
    Just that you will get neatly shut down by an RS Clio 182 in most aspects except top speed! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon
    Just that you will get neatly shut down by an RS Clio 182 in most aspects except top speed! :-)
    Probably true But Maybe I'm getting old and soft or something, but a medium/largish machine with effortless power and all the luxeries fits my style these days.

    Problem is that fuel prices dont match my wants... Oh well, all pipe dreams anyway. Its going to be the trusty R25 for a while yet.
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    Default Safrane Bi-Turbo V6

    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon
    Probably true But Maybe I'm getting old and soft or something, but a medium/largish machine with effortless power and all the luxeries fits my style these days.
    I have to agree... I reckon their calm looks but good power and grip would be perfect for cruising down the Hume at 180kph and relaxing....

    And knowing you have the power (V6 Twin Turbo) and 4WD with the size of car, maybe a good tow car to.....

    Yep I'd buy one second hand if we had ever gotten these here..... good to tow the R15 on a car trailer etc....

    Here are some really nice shots of them (french site) Safrane Bi-Turbo V6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covert
    good power and grip would be perfect for cruising down the Hume at 180kph and relaxing....
    You'd make a nice target for the police as well at 180km/h on the Hume, not so relaxing when your licence gets suspended on the spot :-)

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    Bread and butter models are cheap in the UK - I cant believe this car is only 5 years younger than my R25...

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-SAFRAN...QQcmdZViewItem

    I could live with one of these....
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    You could bet it would be more comfortable than any seat/bed in anyones house as well...

    I'm pretty sure that I remember seeing the Biturbo advertised new in Autocar mags of the mid '90s, but whether they sold many is another matter.
    I thought I read somewhere that the later Safrane was getting certified for ADR, but whether that went ahead with the Volvo fiasco is pretty doubtful.
    The price (over $80K for the V6) would have limited its appeal here too. A bit like the R25 V6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covert
    I have to agree... I reckon their calm looks but good power and grip would be perfect for cruising down the Hume at 180kph and relaxing....

    And knowing you have the power (V6 Twin Turbo) and 4WD with the size of car, maybe a good tow car to.....

    Yep I'd buy one second hand if we had ever gotten these here..... good to tow the R15 on a car trailer etc....

    Here are some really nice shots of them (french site) Safrane Bi-Turbo V6
    http://www.automobile-sportive.com/g...anebiturbo.php


    I think the Alpine and R15 in your signiture have more style ... BTW: Is that Volkers old R15

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    BTW: Is that Volkers old R15
    Yep, last I saw it it was covered in dust and cobwebs in the kerb on the side of the road. A shadow of its former glorious self.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covert
    I have to agree... I reckon their calm looks but good power and grip would be perfect for cruising down the Hume at 180kph and relaxing....
    I can do that in my 1987 R25 V6i 3-speed automatic. But I haven't tried it on the Hume (nor will I ever!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa
    I can do that in my 1987 R25 V6i 3-speed automatic. But I haven't tried it on the Hume (nor will I ever!)
    Yeah I know I was just stiring ... A 4cylinder R24 would probably cruise at 180km/h. My CX2400 5spd would, as would a DS21 5spd (revs would be quite high for prolonged travel).... Infact most larger fench cars would travel at close to that speed due to there gearing for the autobarns.

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    When I lived in EU during 2000 I had a 91 model R25 TXE (2.2L, 4cyl, 5 manual). It cruised very quietly at 180km/h on the European highway networks, topping out at 205km/h. During one period I clocked up 13,000km in less than 5 weeks. A fantastic cruiser that was sublimely comfortable.

    Back there in 2003 I wanted a Safrane. I was told by a Renault dealer that only 2 Biturbo's had been sold in The Netherlands, a country where Renault is one of the most popular cars, with the Laguna ranked a firm 1st as a company car. The V6 Safranes were in the $80K range, but the BiTurbos were significantly more, with the Baccara getting very close to the BMW M5 - hence virtually none were sold. Despite spending a significant amount of time in France, Belgium and The Netherlands, I did not ever see a BiTurbo. Yet I had seen a couple of R25 V6 Turbos. NICE! There's also an extremely rare R25 limo, with a 25cm stretch and two independent seats in the back instead of the standard lounge. Never saw one on the road though.

    Having seen many Safranes, and liking them, I found them more "bland" than the R25. The last of the series looked a little better, and although much more modern than the 25, the Safrane didn't do to the 90's what the R25 did to the 80s, if you get what I mean.

    Needing a car virtually immediately upon arrival, I ended up buying my first Peugeot 605 - 3L V6, 5 speed manual. Although vastly superior to drive than the R25 in every respect, it was less "design" inside. I'll always miss my R25 - should have shipped it.

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    PJ810, thats an excellent sum of of the Safrane IMO - I do remember Covert telling me when the Safrane was a current model that he absolutely hated the car, so I was a little suprised to see him so interested in the model!
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    safranes in the uk are dead cheap,even the v6,we had a LHD bi turbo come in at work,i know i might get in trouble for saying this!!but it wasn,t very quick!!its a heavy car with cats and just didn,t really seem to go,my 25 TURBO seemed qiucker,and its lighter with NO cat!!the safrane was interesting,but looks soooooo heavy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa
    Sort of off-topic, but in the Australian today it was reported that Renault are actually interested in buying Jaguar. If that goes through, it'll set the cat amongst the pigeons!
    l'Auto-Journal say it could be Jaguar, Saab or Volvo.

    Now, as for the future.. place the Egeus and Fluence front end on most cars you have the "future".
    -The Laguna III wagon sketch based the Fluence is dead sexy, as is the 5 door. Due end of 2007.
    -Logan wagon end of 2006
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    -Twingo II finally due end of 2007 after a rework, incl 1.2 turbo 100hp
    -Espace V due 2009 and something derived from Egeus
    -And then the luxury brand purchase..

    Ghosn is here to innovate...
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