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    Default Just killed my second axle.

    These bloody fuego rear ends are as weak as paper.This is the second stub axle I've bent in as many years.
    I swore I'd not do any hand break turns after the last one went, but I forgot about that policy today, and pulled a hand breaky into a parallel park.i dont even think the tyre kissed the gutter, but if it did, it was so light as not to be felt. The first right hand corner i took afterwards had the tyre rubbing madly on the inner guard.It makes me realise that camber changes should not be too dificult to affect with a bit of gentle persuasion.
    I think mom will be glad to finaly get rid of the spare rear end 'mobile' hanging from the garage roof.
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    Hoon!
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    Default Do you need a few Nigel?

    Hey Jo - next trip to Melbourne, you better load up with a few spares mate

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    Wow! I've never done a rear end....

    but front end's have taken a hammering
    but if the speed limit is 60, why should I slow down for a corner?
    It's not like I "really" need to !
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    I've competed in motorkhanas and khanacross in the past and never bent anything. Maybe I was'nt trying hard enough!
    Cheers Renomad

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    The trick is to load up the outer most part of the tyre with as much lateral force as a peble will exert, and bingo,1 stub axle bent.The first time was in the gravel shoulder ,and the offending rock was like a mini Ayres, rock,about 1 inch tall,and yesterday, that was a poor effort by my car.Not even a scratch on the rim or a mark on the tyre to indicate some amount of force.
    Ken, thanks for the offer, but I'm losing my garage,and am trying to lose parts, as moms selling up.Maybe it's the only way to get rid of me and all my fuego crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Australdi
    Wow! I've never done a rear end....

    but front end's have taken a hammering
    but if the speed limit is 60, why should I slow down for a corner?
    It's not like I "really" need to !
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    Yes you do!!!!!!!!I got told by an embrionic police officer who was trying to bust me doing 55 in a 60 zone,that you have to slow down for 90 degree corners. the bit where i burst out laughing was when he told me speed limits were just a recomendation!!!!."Cool.I thought they were the maximum allowed speed.I'll take the same corner at 85km/h next time then,shall I??
    Now if I put the old Yoko 008's back on,I probably could too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    the bit where i burst out laughing was when he told me speed limits were just a recomendation!!!!."
    Recommended you stay under or get booked.

    Wreckless driving is in the eye of the beholder (or the viewing police officer) isn't it?

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    Yes,but it has to stand up in court!I dont think 4500rpm in 2nd ,on its own is enough to convict someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    Yes,but it has to stand up in court!I dont think 4500rpm in 2nd ,on its own is enough to convict someone.
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    and especially when the car is perfectly capable, & completely under control....

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    Fuego hoon of the year... I nominate Jo
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    any other takers...or am I the sole candidate..
    I know one fuego driver who's rolled two fuegos.
    The struts I have in at the moment were on the second car for only about a week before the roll.I'm nervous.
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    I rolled a 16, but rolling a Fuego is a pretty mean feat!

    Want to elaborate on the rolling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid
    I rolled a 16, but rolling a Fuego is a pretty mean feat!

    Want to elaborate on the rolling?
    Now thats interesting, I would have thought a Fuego would be easier to roll in comparison with a R16 - R16's with the basic "plough-understeer" handling characteristics versus the Fuego "stick-like-glue-then-snap-oversteer-without-warning" style :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa
    Now thats interesting, I would have thought a Fuego would be easier to roll in comparison with a R16 - R16's with the basic "plough-understeer" handling characteristics versus the Fuego "stick-like-glue-then-snap-oversteer-without-warning" style :-)
    Yea, moral of the story, don't pack your 16 to the roof... it becomes a little top heavy

    Still gotta find those photos!
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    [QUOTE=jo proffi.
    I know one fuego driver who's rolled two fuegos.

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    hehe,

    A Fuego roller.

    I tell you one thing tho, I rolled a 16 ONCE, I like to think I learned something from it.
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    Fuego roller.LOL. Driver come pilot.The lucky bugger managed to land on his roof in a swamp, and lived to tell me the tale.I had a look over his car the other day and one thing that stood out were the nylathane engine mounts he had fabricated, and the front one was still in tact!!!
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    Default Trophy?

    I wonder what the trophy would look like...

    The JPAEA, perhaps? (Jo Proffi Axle Elimination Award)


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gonz
    I wonder what the trophy would look like...

    The JPAEA, perhaps? (Jo Proffi Axle Elimination Award)

    Thats a good Idea.I couldn't think of a better use for my old axle and two TRX rims.
    In typical fasion,I had to get the car back together in time for work tonight,and i buggered up something maybe.Does anyone know if the fuego swaybar is symetrical,or is there a left and a right side.If there is,I've put it in upsidedown.
    The difference in handling from the old to the new rear end is profound.Possibly the biggest difference I've noticed after tinkering, as big as getting new tyres.The front end seems noticably tighter and the bumps seem less percusive.I'm glad I buggered up the old one now.
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    Thats a fair effort to bend an axle I keep thinking back to my wannabe rally driving I used to do in my Fuegos - skipping sideways across potholes, handbrake entries into corrugated corners etc etc and never broke anything Even had her airborne once or twice....
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    Vivid,

    The 16 roll, yes the memories. ISn't there still some bits and pieces around the Nullabor still?
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    Hi Dale! will we be seeing you at Abbys birthday party today?

    She wanted me to take the 'blue car' today (the dauphine).

    Rolling the 16:

    I'd say I left lots of car bits... left the headlining, back seats, side mirrors and most of the windows there, so if anyone is travelling from wave-rock to Euchla... its the last stretch to the sealed road.

    The rest of the car was crushed a few years back

    Probably best to stick to the highway if your going to do the WA - SA trip... real 4wd road.. water and rocks in places.. didn't see anyone in the opposite direction for 6 hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid
    Hi Dale! will we be seeing you at Abbys birthday party today?

    She wanted me to take the 'blue car' today (the dauphine).

    Rolling the 16:

    I'd say I left lots of car bits... left the headlining, back seats, side mirrors and most of the windows there, so if anyone is travelling from wave-rock to Euchla... its the last stretch to the sealed road.

    The rest of the car was crushed a few years back

    Probably best to stick to the highway if your going to do the WA - SA trip... real 4wd road.. water and rocks in places.. didn't see anyone in the opposite direction for 6 hours!

    David.

    The "short cut"-saves 140k- has recently had $600,000 spent on it and a friend came through in Subaru Forester a month or so ago and said it was great and Fuego would be fine on our planned Tassie trip-but I don't think so.
    Our friend leads 4WD trips to the real outback and even though I drove that way many years ago in a Fairlane I don't think it is worth it.
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    I recon the Fuego would be fine, the 16 WOULD HAVE made it with flying colours, but it was basically a new car with literally $1000kms on the clock, most of it made on the trip.

    Had to back up in a few places because of mud and water, but most of the year it would be bone dry.

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