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    Default Getting irritated!

    as a new owner of the original rs 225 it is bugging me to see so many people including the renault crowd bagging it endlessly. OK so its not the boy racer. It still goes very well and is more of a tourer. having said that is it possible to get the suspension upgrades?

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    Arno... console yourself by noting that the ones bagging it are ones who don't own one

    the only reason it's not on my list, is that I know I wouldn't keep my licence in the first month..or 2 if I got that far!
    I loved driving them!
    congratulations on having such a great car!

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    I read reviews of the 225 after I put a deposit on one. I was disheartened initially by the mostly negative sounding reviews compared to the Clio, and I do wish I could have afforded the cup (And afforded to wait for it) but I tell you what, I love my Megane.

    After owning it for a few months I'm always wondering - these people who compared it negatively, to what did they compare it? It's super comfortable, looks damned great, corners like it's on rails and it's fast enough to be dangerous. I never get out of it after a bit of the twisties without a massive smile on my face.

    After the big Queensland drive-day today I learned a few things. The Clio does corner better. I dunno what went on inside their cockpits, but on the corners where the clio brakelights never lit up I was braking, downshifting and putting my foot down, wheels a-spin all through the corner, and coming out like a bloody rocket. What a rush, every time, but the Clios did seem to handle it better.

    But who cares? The Megane's bigger, it's faster, and when you own a car that's built for drivers, a car that people who love to drive love to drive, we all win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arno
    as a new owner of the original rs 225 it is bugging me to see so many people including the renault crowd bagging it endlessly. OK so its not the boy racer. It still goes very well and is more of a tourer. having said that is it possible to get the suspension upgrades?
    arno

    Don't get irritated, just enjoy driving your car and maintain your enthusiasm and spread the word far and wide to all your friends and colleagues.

    Hopefully in time we will convince the baggers and knockers to open their eyes and perhaps even to take the plunge and enjoy ownership rather than spending their lives scanning the web and the motoring pages looking for negative opinions (opinions that may be based upon who pays most to advertise in that magazine!!)

    The more popular your car becomes, it seems the tempo of negative comments rises, as if to counter the trend and this one of the reasons that owners tend to gravitate to specialist sites (Clio, Fuego, Laguna,16, 17, etc) where you can discuss superlatives, performance, common faults, fixes and suppliers without some person interjecting "see I told you it was a POS and your post proves this" and then tries to sell the virtues of their particular alternative marque - laughable really as when you investigate you find their cars have the same minor niggling problems or service issues (sometimes it is the same component that gives trouble due to a faulty batch provided from an outside supplier!!)

    Its even harder to identify why some renault owners want to blunt or frustrate the popularity of Renault products now being sold on the Australian market; is it envy?, punishment for Renault for abandoning Australian owners in the past? fear of the future? or merely trying to justify their own decision not to return as a current Renault owner? (The yeah thats why I didn't buy!!) or perversely wanting to remain exclusively different and restrict sales?

    Well thats for Renault to work out and counter, we the owners can just enjoy our unique and quirky cars

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    I've mentioned it on here before, and been shouted down.

    Expressing enthusiasm for Renault cars on the Renault Forum is guaranteed to raise howls of protests from non-Renault owners and ex-pats alike.
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    Well, I much prefer the Renault range to the PSA offerings from both camps, except maybe the C5 which holds an interest for me for its interesting engineering and Q-ship looks.

    Oh, and I'll report back on my brother's 225 Cup which I'll be driving this arvo...

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    Default sport 225

    After reading Wheels June issue regarding Audi, BMW, MG, Renault and Golf, I still went out and bought the Renault sport 225. On page 54 they were trying to compare the sport with the Clio which had no bearing on the artical at all, if you want somthing small and nimble, yeh buy a Clio.
    The only problem I have with my 225 is, the misses thinks she has sole use. The only reason I am tinkering with it is, because I can`t stand my brother in laws Sub. For Kit and Perfomance she is a dame nice car to drive.
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    as a new owner of the original rs 225 it is bugging me to see so many people including the renault crowd bagging it endlessly.
    This does not surprise me. Just ignore them and enjoy your great car. I like them. I dont bag them.

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    Default Thanks people!

    I was so happy to your your collective remarks. I am wrapped in the 225 but I was getting depressed and then angry seeing all the negative comments. I have owned a peugot (406) before and two citroens ( ds 23 and cx2400). I have always enjoyed the french cars very much and each has been different. I recall people smirking about citroen being a "lemon" (ha ha very funny) but i hung in there and after a few years away including a merc and a mazda (dont ask) Im back in the french camp.
    Anyway yes the steering could be tighter (and Im looking into it) and the suspension firmer (ditto) bit other wise its a wonderful drive. Lotsa the local hoons seem to want to throw out a challenge and occasionally I oblige. SO far without embarrassment!
    Anyway thanks again for your support guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arno
    I was so happy to your your collective remarks. I am wrapped in the 225 but I was getting depressed and then angry seeing all the negative comments. Anyway thanks again for your support guys!
    Sound like you love it .. and really does anything else matter??? So what if others slag it off, EVERY french car gets slagged off !!!

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    Heh Arno, at a Rally Australia stage south of Perth I met a bunch
    of Canadians, one of whom owned an RS Megane. They followed me
    into the carpark then started taking pictures of my car

    Anyway they raved over its handling. They had replaced the springs
    and boy did it look good. Nice and low with the wheels really filling
    the guards. I don't have a picture here but I'll post one up for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa
    I've mentioned it on here before, and been shouted down.
    Expressing enthusiasm for Renault cars on the Renault Forum is guaranteed to raise howls of protests from non-Renault owners and ex-pats alike.
    Arno I would not bother with all the negative stuff, those sort of people are in their own worlds of shit and depression, enjoy your car and let all that excitment, light and happiness drown them out.

    It does not matter what car you have, from a old renault, New Renault or another marque just as long as you accept other people's views, take them or leave them and really enjoy that car of yours.

    I know you will always get purist renault people whining about tuning your car, like it's a RS, "why touch it, you'll ruin it, etc" just do what you like as it's your car. One thing GOOD about the forum is that you will have people here who can lead you down the path of evil and happy driving :-)

    Like biologist finding the canadians dudes and exchanging info, and seeing the photo posted here soon, what a great way to exchange ideas..... this forum can be used for good... ;-)

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    Yeah i have no ideas why it was compared to WRX's & Clio's, Integra Type R/S etc...
    Its a cruiser with a heap of go (i.e. Suby B4/GT)...
    It was sooo taken out of context & compared to irrelvant cars!

    Either way, its a damn nice car & you enjoy driving it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covert
    I know you will always get purist renault people whining about tuning your car, like it's a RS, "why touch it, you'll ruin it, etc" just do what you like as it's your car. One thing GOOD about the forum is that you will have people here who can lead you down the path of evil and happy driving :-)
    I think it's good that people are able to express their opinion. I may not understand why people want to buy a new RS Clio and then proceed to invalidate their warranty by hoeing into the engine bay in the quest for 5% more power, but I do reserve the right to be able to express that opinion.

    People can choose to ignore. It's a bit like TV, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
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    Arno,

    Who cares what those fools think. I love mine, you love yours, every other 225 owner loves there's.!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Shearer
    Arno,

    Who cares what those fools think. I love mine, you love yours, every other 225 owner loves there's.!!
    I am happy with mine too... in my dreams

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    Well Arno, I've driven the Cup version now. That is one HELL of a car! In fact, I couldn't fault the whole package at all, other than slight wind noise around the A pillars. Admittedly, I didn't really push the handling, the car being my brother's and only a few days old.

    What a superb all rounder.

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    Default The support is great!

    Hey stuey are you in Perth? woohoo you mean theres two of us!
    Tomorrow I have to drive to Busselton - ordinarily I would hate going there but on this occasion I cant wait to go .
    Hey today in the city I pulled up behind a megane convertible/cabriolet. I tried to wave at the driver but "she" wasnt interested LOL Probably thought I was cracking on. The other day I was overtaken by a clio. There seems to be a few around. What I do notice is the flood of wrx's around. Seems every revver in town has one.
    Hey everyone once again thanks a million for the support. I must be easily pleased cos im just plain happy with the 225. I dont even mind the sound gear. Im dreading new tyre time though. Geez does anyone even stock conti's in Perth? And how much *gulp* are they? I passed on the satnav and bought a gregorys instead LOL (30bucks)
    Oh well. Anyway see ya round!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFG
    I read reviews of the 225 after I put a deposit on one. I was disheartened initially by the mostly negative sounding reviews compared to the Clio, and I do wish I could have afforded the cup (And afforded to wait for it) but I tell you what, I love my Megane.
    The problem with motoring reviews, is that the journalists are constantly comparing new cars to newer cars!
    For Joe Public this has little relevance, because when we buy a new car, we have on average stepped out of a car that is six years old and probably tens years old in design and concept! (in my case it's more like 25 years)
    So naturally our new cars are always going to be better than the old car we have just traded.
    I reckon my Corsa (Barina) is a pretty decent and good looking car, but in the last few reviews it's received a bit of a bagging, due to newer competition and it might have something to do with a new replacement due out about now.
    Funny, the Corsa does'nt feel any worse than what it was before the bad review! I still prefer to drive it, to my wife's Commodore!
    Having owned my beloved Fuego for 20 years, I've copped a fair share of flak over the years, stuff 'em, sure she's flawed, but I look at it as character!
    Enjoy your Megane Arno (I know I would) and stop reading and listening to other peoples opinion, because that's all they are.....opinions!
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    If you have a collection of motor mags it is interesting to read a 5-10 year old road test of how marvellous the test car is and then a later review-on average you would think they ae discussing different cars.
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    If you have a collection of motor mags it is interesting to read a 5-10 year old road test of how marvellous the test car
    The ever increasing torsional rigidity of new cars always makes me laugh. At the current rate the cars of 20 yrs ago must have been made of tissue paper!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arno
    as a new owner of the original rs 225 it is bugging me to see so many people including the renault crowd bagging it endlessly. OK so its not the boy racer. It still goes very well and is more of a tourer. having said that is it possible to get the suspension upgrades?
    Heres those pics I promised Arno!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biologist
    Heres those pics I promised Arno!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arno
    Hey stuey are you in Perth? woohoo you mean theres two of us!?
    Well, yes, I'm in Perth, but it's my brother's car. I've seen a few of the non-Cup 225 around. Saw an orange one in the car park of Hungry Jacks in Joondalup a few weeks ago.

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