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    Info on Renault 16

    I dont know much about the Renault 16 but I know the auto is a column shift is the manual a column shift also? kisses

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    Hi Daniel
    Yes the manuals are column shift as well. Not a bad column shift as far as column shifts go.
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    danielsydney:
    I dont know much about the Renault 16 but I know the auto is a column shift is the manual a column shift also? kisses
    If you are thinking about learning to drive a manual in a 16, have another think. The handbrake is really badly placed and is awkward to use, if it indeed does work, for hill starts. Besides there are lots of other age issues with 16's, like worn front/rear suspension wishbone bushes (expensive and difficult to replace), body rust and internal engine corrosion. Thinking though, a 16 even with all its foibles it would still be better than a Niki!

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    Just chiming in here, as an ex-16 owner...

    There's nothing wrong with the column shift manuals in 16s......the shift quality was light years ahead of most column shifts of the time.

    Actually, I can't think of a better changing/"feeling" column shift except perhaps a 404.

    Don't let the column shift scare you off, if you've found a good one.....go for it, they are a great car (esp late TS/TXs).
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by DTwo:
    [QB]Just chiming in here, as an ex-16 owner...

    I'll add my bit too, as a current late model 16TS owner. The column shift is indeed as good as they get and a joy to operate.

    The 16 is a great car to drive even now, but the thing that really gives its age away is the heaviness of the steering. Keep the right size tyres and keep the pressures up! Late model ones had a reasonable handbrake location (as they extended the handle!!)and they work reasonably well.

    If you are keen and can find a good one, parts aren't a big problem as a rule but rust certainly is THE issue.
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    I don't know much about R16's, but the 404 also has a difficult to access handbrake. I never found hillstarts a problem though because the brake and accelerator were perfectly placed for easy heal-toeing, thus I never ever needed to use the handbrake for hill starts. Actually I've got into the habit of doing hill starts this way no matter what car I'm driving. Every now and then ,though, I come across a car with bad pedal placement so I have to resort to using the handbrake (most annoying!).

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    Once you get over the misconception that God intended gear sticks to be on the floor, you will find that the R16 column shift is fabulous. Gears at your fingertips. My beloved R16TS has now succumbed to rust, but I'll never forget that lovely engine, sweet gear shift and magic carpet ride.
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    Hi Daniel

    I actually learn't to drive in a 16TS 1975 model. It was so easy to drive with the column shift and I found that it could be very forgiving on the clutch/accelerator combo. (much like my R15).

    As I learn't to drive in a pine forest, the great ground clearancwe came in handy as there were many large pot holes, roots etc.

    Try one, I think you will like it.
    Oh, don't forget the beaut ride.

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    Yeah i want to learn to drive a manual now more than ever after the sydney frog run and not being able to keep up with all those 306 gti's...

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    danielsydney:
    Yeah i want to learn to drive a manual now more than ever after the sydney frog run and not being able to keep up with all those 306 gti's...
    YAY head_ban dance

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    danielsydney:
    Yeah i want to learn to drive a manual now more than ever after the sydney frog run and not being able to keep up with all those 306 gti's...
    I think you'll need more than a manual if you wanna mix it with 306 GTI-6's, S16's etc with a stock R19, maybe cams and a 16v head would do. Also, if you've got your original 14' rims, chuck them on for the next frog run; your acceleration will be a bit better than with your aftermarket rims.

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    davemcbean:
    I don't know much about R16's, but the 404 also has a difficult to access handbrake.....
    Yes, a legacy of having been designed prior to the general introduction of safety belts. And going out before the compulsory fitting of inertia reel belts...

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