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    On both my newly aquired fuego's, the coolent hoses look great, all soft and new looking, but this is a hoax!!!! they are actually fully stuffed and just waiting for the next tase of redline to pop. I was wondering why every fuego I own has a crack in the exhaust manifold,between the first and second pipe nearest the fire wall, and after splitting a hose at redline, and spewing coolent all over that exact spot, I am in less doubt to as why all the cracks.
    Having driven old cars all my life, I have learned the disciplin of not ever touching, squeezing,twisting or even breathing on my old hoses. that way the dont bust like the ones I've got now. I reckon someones tried to recondition the hoses with brake-fluid, or some othe such chemical, and I must admit, it looks good, but give me a crusty dried out crumbling coolent hose any day as at least it can take the pressure without blisters opening up all over the length of the hose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    I reckon someones tried to recondition the hoses with brake-fluid, or some othe such chemical...
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    People do this? Is it just a cosmetic thing just to sell the car?
    What Mongrels!
    I've seen the old banana skin in the gearbox trick before and one old
    car with suspicuous cracking forming on the paint job a few months
    after purchase turned out to be several centimeters of body filler
    falling out of the massive meter long gash down the side of the car.
    No attempt to repair the damage! After removing all the filler it
    looked like someone had taken a huge can opener to the side of
    the car. Luckily the car had only been purchased as a donor car
    and its Moto Lito steering wheel

    Are you going to replace the hoses asap Jo?

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    Yes, radiator hoses are some of the things that I tend to renew when I get a car, not sure what Ken at Caravelle is charging for new ones, but worth every penny in my opinion.

    I do keep the better looking ones, supple and no inner cracking for spares in the long tray in the boot area, along with a new clutch cable, new throttle cable and a good second hand cambelt, spark plugs and other small bits and pieces like some petrol line tube and various hose clips. TD sensor lead etc.

    Being prepared seems to ward off the evil spirits, as none of these have broken on long trips!

    I find that I can conveniently carry most of the tools needed to adjust the Fuego, in a very small zippered oval cosmetic bag (a few dollars in an op shop or $2 style shop - drops neatly into the well area that holds the jack etc.

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    I've just found the purge valve on the heater line a very handy spare to cary, along with some 3/4 inch hose, with a joiner already fitted . that way I can patch most leaks in a minimum of time.(this is important because a hose will always break on the way to a gig). A roll of gaff tape can go along way too.
    Biologist,I dont think these things have been done to sell the cars,and if they were its even dumber, as I got the cars so cheep. I think maybe someone, even a someplace, thinks that the car looks better with 'new' look hoses, and has done it perhaps, because after an engine clean, the bay looked dirty with those old hoses.who knows for sure, but both cars are strikingly similar and went within days of eachother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    I dont think these things have been done to sell the
    cars,and if they were its even dumber, as I got the cars so cheep. I think
    maybe someone, even a someplace, thinks that the car looks better with
    'new' look hoses, and has done it perhaps, because after an engine clean, the
    bay looked dirty with those old hoses.who knows for sure, but both cars are
    strikingly similar and went within days of eachother.
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    Well at least ignorance is slightly more acceptable than malice
    Could kerosene have had that effect on the hoses? Its often used to clean
    engines as its cheap and water miscible. I use it myself at times but try
    to avoid getting it on rubber, plastic or electrical components.
    I guess I've been lucky and never had a hose failure, did throw a piston
    through the side of a block once though, does that count?

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    That counts heaps.had your block gone soft??
    I dont think kerro alone will do that to the hoses. I use large amounts of $2 shop degreaser,which I'd bet is close to kerro ,and spray it everywhere, particularly my engine mounts and CV boots, and I've never encounted this type of looks like new, feels like half cured silicon, effect.
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    A decent rubber/plastics cleaner/care product shouldn't hurt pipes. Never ever ever had a problem with bad pipes over the years and have won enough concours d'élégance at the same time . Someone using something aggressive would really make a mess though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    ...had your block gone soft??...
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    Maybe Jo, the car used to belong to a nun...

    A shame the chemist that used to work with us here has resigned.
    He loved these sorts of mysteries and would end up collecting
    radiator hoses and soaking them in all sorts of solvents to work
    out what may have happened...

    It'll probably remain one of those mysteries never solved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by biologist
    ...A shame the chemist that used to work with us here has resigned.
    He loved these sorts of mysteries and would end up collecting
    radiator hoses and soaking them in all sorts of solvents to work
    out what may have happened... ...
    Sounds like he could've moved on to CSI...
    I've struck this myself occasionally - God knows what some people use. I usually follow Ken's "change them all" idea.
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    Dad, you forgot to mention cable ties in the emergency kit....show me a fuego that hasn't used some of those!
    BTW I also carry around an emergency can of baked beans....in case I get stranded & hungry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by biologist
    Maybe Jo, the car used to belong to a nun...

    A shame the chemist that used to work with us here has resigned.
    He loved these sorts of mysteries and would end up collecting
    radiator hoses and soaking them in all sorts of solvents to work
    out what may have happened...

    It'll probably remain one of those mysteries never solved...

    cheers,
    l knew a guy who worked for a car rental company, and they use to use glycerine to keep the tyre walls and bumpers looking new and shining, maybe this is what was used on the hoses to preserve there look?
    l've been thinking this could also be used on the rear spoiler to keep it from cracking as they normally do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feugman
    ...they use to use glycerine to keep the tyre walls and
    bumpers looking new and shining, maybe this is what was used on the hoses
    to preserve there look?
    Glycerine? thats a new one for me,
    What wrong with Revive or one of those other purpose made products to keep
    plastics from drying out and cracking? Ah well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biologist
    Glycerine? thats a new one for me,
    What wrong with Revive or one of those other purpose made products to keep
    plastics from drying out and cracking? Ah well.

    Cheers,
    Glycerine is the old school version of protectants. I first saw the suggestion in an old 1960's VW handbook as a way of preventing the door seals deteriorating. I’m not sure how it would work on the hybrid rubbers of modern cars.

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    Learn something every day!

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    Default fuego cooling hoses...

    After degreasing your engine and its surrounds spray the hoses, any plastic trunking and air cleaner body with a silicone spray, STP etc. Concours points!
    I would gladly kill any car detailer who uses those varnish products under the bonnet !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon
    Glycerine is the old school version of protectants. I first saw the suggestion in an old 1960's VW handbook as a way of preventing the door seals deteriorating. I’m not sure how it would work on the hybrid rubbers of modern cars.

    Yes Glycerine was widely used years ago, softens the outer surface of the rubber gives a nice shiny black finish, but road dust tends to accumulate on it as Glycerine is a sweet sticky substance.

    Only used it a few times myself but found it useless due to the dusty country roads in those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest
    After degreasing your engine and its surrounds spray the hoses, any plastic trunking and air cleaner body with a silicone spray, STP etc. Concours points!
    I would gladly kill any car detailer who uses those varnish products under the bonnet !!
    I would very gladly kill any one using silicone spray anywhere near any of my cars! Ever seen what even the minutest amount will do to new paint? I have had VERY bad experiences with this stuff and always check products before buying. There are a number of non-silicone prodcts which do at least as good a job.
    I have been told by a very reputable painter that the only real remover of silicone is brake fluid, and a bare metal cut back!

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    I have been told by a very reputable painter that the only real remover of silicone is brake fluid, and a bare metal cut back! [/QUOTE]

    OK. Now this is getting silly. You start your thread with a wild exageration, that seems to continue till the end!!
    Now I'm not a painter, but if silicon comes off the bumpers and such with the first shower,How much is going to be left after,say six month.
    This thread was about a fuego, so new paint is irrelevent, but please tell me anyway what does it do to new paint??? And what were your VERY bad experiences??
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    The greasy soft hoses seem to be marked "vulca SA", they appear on R25s of the period. I don't believe thier appearance is due to any degreaser or cleaning product, as the insides are often sticky and disentegrating even on cars which have clearly never had their engines cleaned.
    Mackay? lists a top hose for the Fuego, dunno if their stuff is any good as the hose is too short for the R25 with AC.
    Heater hoses- Goodyear Hi-miler is unbeatable, a bit pricey but tough and a pretty blue colour .

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