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    Default R12 2 speed wiper switch !!!

    Those in the know,
    I am looking for a decent 2 speed wiper switch and the attaching plug on the cables. See attached picture.

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    I'm due to pull the virage apart on the weekend, I'll let you know.

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    The Virage will have the lever type wiper switch on the steering column shroud, not the rocker.

    I'm sure I have some wiper switches (might be 5 pin not 4) but i'm not sure of the plug. The plug is usually part of the wiper harness and is hard-wired to the wiper motor. I probably have a wiper motor but removing the plug will make the wiper motor US.

    FYI, some of the universal electric window winder switches that you can get for add-on electric windows have plugs that fit the Renault wiper switches. I bought one a few years ago off eBay (not as a wiper plug) and was surprised how well it fit. Have a trawl through eBay or Aliexpress etc. They'd be new so a whole lot better than a brittle 40 - 50 year old plug off a R12.

    This one looks similar.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Car-Powe...MAAOSwahheXYc6


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    Thank you Ren and Bowie, see what you got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Thank you Ren and Bowie, see what you got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
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    That is a fan switch, the wiper switch is different inside to allow for the parking function to work.
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    Sorry guys, I marked the picture for the missing pin then forgot to mention I need the 5 pin unit as Ren said, and it only came back to me this afternoon. Too much side work going on.

    Thanks Ren, COL and J-Y

    Thanks, Wiper Switch , 5 pin required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Sorry guys, I marked the picture for the missing pin then forgot to mention I need the 5 pin unit as Ren said, and it only came back to me this afternoon. Too much side work going on.

    Thanks Ren, COL and J-Y

    Thanks, Wiper Switch , 5 pin required.

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    I have 4 second hand wiper switches with 5 pins. One has a black suround the rest are stainless steel. If you PM me your email address I'll send two photos of them. Woundn't even try to put photos on here. I don't have any sockets to suit but just use the usual female spade crimp terminals. No one can see them. I will check them electrically if you are interested and pick the best looking one or two if you so desire. No charge for them.

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    Ray hopefully you can dismantle the internal of the switch and replace the broken blade with one from another switch, or alternatively make up a new blade for it. Much easy to get a new one if there is one available though. I'll check my spare box of switches to see if one looks similar.

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    Photos sent. Will be in town this afternoon and can post them then.

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    The emails bounced back. I'll check why if I can. Perhaps the size of the photos?

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    Sunroof,
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    I'm doing a similar conversion to Gecko. I have the switch and the motor but they are separated. Can anyone shed some light on the configuration of the wiring that joins the two please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by julians View Post
    I'm doing a similar conversion to Gecko. I have the switch and the motor but they are separated. Can anyone shed some light on the configuration of the wiring that joins the two please? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
    It does depend on how much originality you want I reckon. About 40 years ago I fitted a Holden wiper/washer rotary/press switch. It's perfect. Press a bit for wash, press harder and it rotates and you get wipe. Turn it off and they self park. Turn it off further and they stop where they are. What more could you want.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by julians View Post
    I'm doing a similar conversion to Gecko. I have the switch and the motor but they are separated. Can anyone shed some light on the configuration of the wiring that joins the two please?

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    Can't help with a wiring diagram, but the internet probably can. Failing that, you can figure it out with a meter and a battery.
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    The wiring for the rocker type wiper switch and the lever type wiper switch (from the Virage) are different.
    The switches are different internally and the wiper motors are wired differently although they use the same physical plug.
    You will burn out either the switch, motor, or both if you use a rocker switch on a lever type motor and visa-versa.
    From memory, I think the self-park terminal and the low-speed terminal are transposed but I could be wrong. The lever switch has a washer terminal that's not on the rocker switch.
    The Haynes R12 manual has the configuration for the rocker switch.
    Unfortunately I have a new computer and haven't got any of my Renault files loaded (yet).
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    Here is a wiring diagram M.R.150

    This diagram is for the rocker style switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REN TIN TIN View Post
    The wiring for the rocker type wiper switch and the lever type wiper switch (from the Virage) are different.
    The switches are different internally and the wiper motors are wired differently although they use the same physical plug.
    You will burn out either the switch, motor, or both if you use a rocker switch on a lever type motor and visa-versa.
    From memory, I think the self-park terminal and the low-speed terminal are transposed but I could be wrong. The lever switch has a washer terminal that's not on the rocker switch.
    The Haynes R12 manual has the configuration for the rocker switch.
    Unfortunately I have a new computer and haven't got any of my Renault files loaded (yet).
    There is a work around if you want to change from the lever type switch to the rocker type switch or vise versa and that is to simply release the spade terminals from the plug and relocate in the correct location the motor that you have.
    Just my worth
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    Thanks COL,
    Been looking for that. Had got one working, but your picture confirms what I have.

    Would you by any chance have the Renault boob on the R12 1400 Virage engine. I want the spec on head and valve sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post

    Would you by any chance have the Renault boob on the R12 1400 Virage engine. I want the spec on head and valve sizes.

    Ray
    Not sure if I have that info on the 1.4 but will have a look.
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