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    Hi all,
    I am looking for an early R4 sunroof. Condition is not that crucial, as long as there enough parts for me to pattern. I know the thing these days is to attach a Twingo roof, but I don't want that. I'd rather the original bi-fold style as the car it will be fitted to is a 1963 R4.
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    Ideally you would want to find someone willing to sell their complete private import sunroof R4, of which there would be less than a handful around. They were never originally sold in Australia. You would really need the roof panel, as it incorporates the sunroof frame and fittings.

    If you are really keen, try Renospeed in the UK, they may be able to freight over a roof cut to suit. Home - Renospeed - Renault 4 Restoration And Repair Specialist
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    Check out wreckers for cars with sunroofs, should be able to find one that may work.

    Alternately I'll come over and make a convertible if you like with my angle grinder. Let us know
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    At this stage its a pipe dream. I will seriously pursue it when I have the R4 going.

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    Might pass on your very generous offer.
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    Depending on budget and skills, it may be best thought before the project. My idea is that it would be it is easier to unspot the roof panel, then spot/plug weld the sunroof roof panel in place.
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    Scarcity of these units seems to be more of a problem than installing one it seems. I have been in touch with Derek and have asked him if he sees one if it would be possible to measure up the arms and fittings and take some close up photos of all the important features. I'm sure one could reproduce the hardware if I can get a look at a complete example to use as a pattern. The photos I have unfortunately don't get in close enough, and of course I would have to guess at the dimensions - difficult, but not impossible.
    I'll like to come and see your cars and parts - Perhaps you could PM me and let me know where abouts you are - I am near Mount Compass.
    All the best.
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    This may be a long shot but, i sold a sunroof car to a guy lived opposite the aquatic center in ryde , from looking at maps it must have been margaret st ,bout half way down the guy was a real hoarder ,[had to walk sideways down the hall] ,chances are the car is still there,, in use as a chicken coop ,try google earth you may be able to see it in the back yard ,the car was a light color off white ,i must admit this was some considerable time ago pugs

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    Thanks pugs,
    Unfortunately I live in South Australia so checking it out would be a problem. if any knows about this car I would welcome a post.
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    I had a careful look on Google Earth. Most of Margaret Street has been redeveloped - quite large blocks actually! There are only a couple of the original houses left I reckon and no sign of an R4 in a back yard, at least that I could see. Doesn't mean it definitely isn't there, but it didn't look too promising to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron from sa View Post
    Might pass on your very generous offer.
    Convertible R4's are so cute
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    you're not wrong. A Renault Moke? Plein aire I believe.
    Don't know how one would go registering one of them - seat belt anchoring being the obvious issue.
    I also reckon the hood would be a nightmare to work out.
    Given the alarming body roll of the R4 I don't reckon you'd get too many passengers! or you might arrive at your destination minus one or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron from sa View Post
    Don't know how one would go registering one of them - seat belt anchoring being the obvious issue.
    I don't know what the rules are in SA, but in NSW, if the car didn't originally have seat belts, then they don't have to be fitted for (re)registration.

    I was talking to a friend a couple of days ago about the accident he had in his 1964 Mini and he confirmed that when the police investigated the accident, they commented on no seat belts in the car. My friend reminded them that if belts weren't originally fitted, then they didn't have to be fitted for registration. However, if someone did fit them, then they must be worn. Apparently the police agreed with my friend's comments and no action was taken against him.

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    Equally, from WA, if belts were not fitted at the time of manufacture, they are not mandatory. HOWEVER, in WA if you do fit belts to a car for which they were not an original fitment, they must be engineered correctly or your insurance may be at risk. There are some specialist companies that do this all the time and they certify the belts and fittings as being compliant.

    Don't forget the issue of old and frayed webbing - safety plus insurance.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    they must be engineered correctly or your insurance may be at risk
    As might your life!
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    Forgot that! Yes.....

    I reckon in these cars that the belts help minimise injuries for minor to middling accidents. If you have a big one, well..... For my 4CV I reckon the mounts are stronger than the car.
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