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    Hi all,

    Is there some way to search out Renault part numbers? I need to find out the part number for rear brake shoes for my son's Clio because we bought shoes from the dealer using the VIN and they supplied the wrong ones.

    I believe there are Bosch and Lucas Girling (TRW) systems on these cars and we have the Girling system, but were supplied Bosch style shoes. Since it took us a year to get round to having a look, we're stuck with offloading them on eBay unfortunately.

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    I just want to make sure next time I buy.

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    Try the TRW site:

    https://www.trwaftermarket.com/en/

    Or brakeparts.co.uk

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    Cheers, that was useful to confirm the TRW number I had (GS8729). I should be able to work out the Renault number(s) from there...bloody dealer. Argh.


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    There should be Renault part numbers listed under the OEM tab.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Cheers, that was useful to confirm the TRW number I had (GS8729). I should be able to work out the Renault number(s) from there...bloody dealer. Argh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Hi all,

    Is there some way to search out Renault part numbers? I need to find out the part number for rear brake shoes for my son's Clio because we bought shoes from the dealer using the VIN and they supplied the wrong ones.

    I believe there are Bosch and Lucas Girling (TRW) systems on these cars and we have the Girling system, but were supplied Bosch style shoes. Since it took us a year to get round to having a look, we're stuck with offloading them on eBay unfortunately.

    I just want to make sure next time I buy.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    We always get them rebonded otherwise this happens.
    Usually works out cheaper too
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    Yeah I did that on my R12 once so I have done it, but we need to do a quick swap over as the car is in constant use. Good idea though.

    Worst thing is, it's not immediately obvious they're different so the old ones were removed etc. and then the subtle differences noted. Looked it up and sure enough, two OEM's with slightly different shoes. Fortunately the old ones aren't quite knackered so could be replaced for a while...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Yeah I did that on my R12 once so I have done it, but we need to do a quick swap over as the car is in constant use. Good idea though. Worst thing is, it's not immediately obvious they're different so the old ones were removed etc. and then the subtle differences noted. Looked it up and sure enough, two OEM's with slightly different shoes. Fortunately the old ones aren't quite knackered so could be replaced for a while...
    This is precisely what the VIN number ordering system is designed to avoid and always has in my experience. I'm puzzled. Did you buy the car new?
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    No.

    I think the parts guy just stuffed up somehow. I've heard of incorrect parts being supplied even when the VIN is provided.

    In the old days Jack would say 'have you got Bosch or Girling' as a backup to make sure because he'd know there are two systems, but now there's no chance of this level of knowledge.
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    ....also, the shoes had never been changed as the car had only done 65,000km when we got it as second owners with Renault service history. It's definitely a full Girling system as the front calipers are Girling (assuming you're thinking the car has had a transplant on the rear).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    ....also, the shoes had never been changed as the car had only done 65,000km when we got it as second owners with Renault service history. It's definitely a full Girling system as the front calipers are Girling (assuming you're thinking the car has had a transplant on the rear).
    It did cross my mind.... Sounds like two digits swapped on the VIN when ordering or something similar. Easily done...
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    What's the difference?

    Don't tell me the new ones were thicker?

    Don't laugh I once had someone bring back a set of front pads because they were to thick and wouldn't fit between the piston and the disc.
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    This quality of parts interpretation seems par for the course. You ask if the kit comes with all the parts required, specifying the parts you need - they say yes. When they arrive, they are not included, resulting in another order and another trip. Afterwards the electronic parts catalogue was perused, it is obvious the separate parts are not together in the kit. Similar with when two (identical and related) parts are required on the car, you ask for two, they only supply one - another order and another trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    This quality of parts interpretation seems par for the course. You ask if the kit comes with all the parts required, specifying the parts you need - they say yes. When they arrive, they are not included, resulting in another order and another trip. Afterwards the electronic parts catalogue was perused, it is obvious the separate parts are not together in the kit. Similar with when two (identical and related) parts are required on the car, you ask for two, they only supply one - another order and another trip.
    I can attest to this issue, but for once it worked our way. I wanted a new "key" for our daughter's Series II Scenic. Off to dealer, asked for one. "Sorry sir, ex-France and we need the VIN number". "No," I said, "all Scenic II keys are the same." Anyway, got the VIN number and back to the dealer, ordered key. They come as the electronic tab (quite expensive) and the separate plug in physical key to get into the car if the battery goes flat or whatever. "Don't need the key, thanks" I said - we have that already and they are $50 or a bit more. So I ordered just the electronic tab (the VIN number of course is unique for cutting the key we didn't need or pay for).

    It all arrived within a week despite three weeks being quoted (no complaints there) AND with a brand new physical key cut to the VIN number.

    I shake my head sometimes. I do understand why they want VIN numbers but the actual ordering process is far from foolproof!
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    Well I went into my local(multi franchise) dealer for some coolant for my then current model Captur and had to supply the VIN before they would give me some. I asked the guy who bought it out, what other models used that Renault branded bottle of coolant and he said all of them. Figure that out ???
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    Let nobody think nonsense bureaucracy is a Government matter......
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    David, they had a different mounting setup completely. So in this model, there are two 203mm drum brakes and two 180mm drum brakes, Bosch and TRW, ABS and non-ABS. Son's are TRW (Girling) ABS 203mm.

    The main thing was the adjuster mech wouldn't fit to the shoe as the original has a rollpin in the appropriate spot; the one we got didn't. But there were other differences so the adjuster and springs are different.

    Looking at say eBay for them it is actually quite difficult to be sure of the right ones! I have it sussed now though.


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    It goes to show how front brakes have improved - the 1948 Renault 4CV had 180 mm drums by Lockheed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    David, they had a different mounting setup completely. So in this model, there are two 203mm drum brakes and two 180mm drum brakes, Bosch and TRW, ABS and non-ABS. Son's are TRW (Girling) ABS 203mm.

    The main thing was the adjuster mech wouldn't fit to the shoe as the original has a rollpin in the appropriate spot; the one we got didn't. But there were other differences so the adjuster and springs are different.

    Looking at say eBay for them it is actually quite difficult to be sure of the right ones! I have it sussed now though.
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    No, the fronts are discs! The 180mm drums are the non-ABS and the 203mm are ABS, both rear. You get them in both brands though, just to make it sure that later on you get the wrong parts. Ha ha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    No, the fronts are discs! The 180mm drums are the non-ABS and the 203mm are ABS, both rear. You get them in both brands though, just to make it sure that later on you get the wrong parts. Ha ha.
    Sure, I realised that. Just the rears are the old 1948 4CV size, my point being that the fronts are so good that nothing more than 1948 is needed at the rear. Four wheel discs in 1962 on the R8...
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    Hmmm, I thought that wasn't like you John!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    David, they had a different mounting setup completely. So in this model, there are two 203mm drum brakes and two 180mm drum brakes, Bosch and TRW, ABS and non-ABS. Son's are TRW (Girling) ABS 203mm.

    The main thing was the adjuster mech wouldn't fit to the shoe as the original has a rollpin in the appropriate spot; the one we got didn't. But there were other differences so the adjuster and springs are different.

    Looking at say eBay for them it is actually quite difficult to be sure of the right ones! I have it sussed now though.
    All Clio in Oz have ABS so I'm guessing there's only 2 differences, Bosch and TRW in 203mm. I've sold Clio drums in the past and had to ask the customer if his are Bosch or TRW. Problem is that they often come up with the same part number, Peugeot servicebox is the same, different brands use the same pn but not interchangeable. Your dealer should have known that
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    It goes to show how front brakes have improved - the 1948 Renault 4CV had 180 mm drums by Lockheed.
    You sound like my brother. Everything since the 4CV has been down hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    You sound like my brother. Everything since the 4CV has been down hill.
    He's an educated man.... I must get a ride in his sometime.
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    I try to stay away from regi stuff but I use this Catalogue

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