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    Hi guys. For the last months, Oli and I have been busy with the Dacia revival. As you may know, the Romanian cars were basically R12 Gordini shells (what was called bad roads version) and R12 1300 bits. Besides that, there was a rally department locally, backed by Renault (so some factory R12G were send there). We are trying to develop some competion parts, but also to source some basic road parts of acceptable quality (so not from Turkey).
    Please check my website (work still in progress, trying to add new items on a regular basis)
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    Excellent! The solid caster bars look interesting, I’d seen them in the 12/17 competition guide.
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    Like your website, lots of information there.
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    Well done, and thanks for posting.

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    Well done, good initiative.

    What do you mean by Gordini shells? I mean how were they different fromt he "normal" R12 shell?

    I know some of the (later) Dacia variants had 5 speed gearboxes, but they never had the large four satellite 12G diff. They did however have g'boxes labelled 365 and 395, but all of them had the same two-satellite diff you find in any run of the mill garden variety 12 (352 g'box). They did however come with a wider combination of gears/ratios, not necessarily related with Renault offerings in other markets.
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    Hi guys. Thanx for the comments. Albeit I know some of you for a certain time, by supplying parts, I always have been kind of shy to expose my commercial activity, as I always favoured the "mouth to ear" publicity. The shells assembled in Romania were with the reinforced elements ie the sills had doubled sleeved sheets, like the R12G. 15 years ago I managed to get bodyshells parts from Conex in Romania (they had exclusiity for supplying those parts as aftermarket sanctionned bits, and they were identical to french parts). It's certain that after some time, romanians came up with derived versions / cars that were not really massproduced elsewhere.
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    The shells where different!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    Hi guys. Thanx for the comments. Albeit I know some of you for a certain time, by supplying parts, I always have been kind of shy to expose my commercial activity, as I always favoured the "mouth to ear" publicity. The shells assembled in Romania were with the reinforced elements ie the sills had doubled sleeved sheets, like the R12G. 15 years ago I managed to get bodyshells parts from Conex in Romania (they had exclusiity for supplying those parts as aftermarket sanctionned bits, and they were identical to french parts). It's certain that after some time, romanians came up with derived versions / cars that were not really massproduced elsewhere.

    That is very interesting.

    Another thing of potential interest, I found driveshafts made for Dacia by GKN, which fit the 395 (our numbers) boxes. These are 1cm longer than those used with the 352 'boxes. Mine came from Hungary, not sure where you would chase them now. This was about 10 years back when I wanted to put a 395 in my R12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    The shells where different!

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    Well, from my experience all the bits I managed to recoup fit the R12G. I agree that there are some minor differences in terms of lights / indicators /fuel cap position, but nothing really annoying when you restore a car with new panels.
    There are still some NOS parts in RO, they can be sourced (I agree the 385/395 was extensively fitted to those cars).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    Well, from my experience all the bits I managed to recoup fit the R12G. I agree that there are some minor differences in terms of lights / indicators /fuel cap position, but nothing really annoying when you restore a car with new panels.
    There are still some NOS parts in RO, they can be sourced (I agree the 385/395 was extensively fitted to those cars).
    You mean 365, of course.


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    Not sure. From the Dacia PR i've seen, there were no 365 mentionned, but some parts were similar in the 385/395 versions. The 365 was kind of top range in France (R12G, A110 1600SC, A310) so I suspect it would have been too expensive for the romanian production (but I can confirm that factory supported rally cars had 365 fitted)

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    There was never a 'box labelled 385 used on Dacias. They were all 352, 395 and 365 with the differences I explained above.

    I am talking of course about the sedan/wagon cars. At some point Dacia started building all sorts of utes, diesels, 4WD etc, things never built by Renault on the back of the 12. Don't know much about any of those.

    I think there were 6 R12G imported in Romania for competition in 1970, some still in existence today. Those however were fully imported from France.
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