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    Default R 16 Clutch/input/ spigot shaft oil seal

    Need to obtain new oil seal 24 x 38.5 x 10 oil seal prefer with springed lip.
    Any contact for local source/s appreciated,
    Thanks John

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    Try Brisbane Bearing Co in Hemmant. They have delivery at cost and sell all sorts

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    I'd try a SKF or Bearing Service Trade outlet.

    I suspect the seal may be an imperial type.

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    Tried both suggestions....not imperial & is available from NZ from one source I tried before posting to rack others brains. Thx JG

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    Quote Originally Posted by driven View Post
    Thanks but 38.5mm not 38mm
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    Do you have a CBC (Consolidated Bearings) or BSC Motion Technology outlet somewhere near you? If you give them sizes, they'll post out. Be sure you mention it needs to be Viton.
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    I'm trade, tried all bearing supply type companies forum suggestions & 38.5 was the not available aspect!

    Seal Innovations in Brisbane will have 9 seals left after they get 10 from their NZ store, shipped today, if anyone else needs this R16 front transmission cover to clutch shaft.
    Seal dimensions are 24mm x 38.5mm x 10mm.

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    The 38.5 is a unique Renault size.

    I knock the sleeve out of the bell housing, put it in the lathe and machine to fit a 40mm seal in. Refit all.

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    Good info, why we rely on experience & thanks, JG

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    The 38.5 is a unique Renault size.

    I knock the sleeve out of the bell housing, put it in the lathe and machine to fit a 40mm seal in. Refit all.

    Ray
    A very practical approach. However it's kind of "laying a trap" for the future.

    And personally, I prefer to keep consumable items as the manufacturer designed them.

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    They are very difficult to get in Europe, so !!!!

    And anybody who takes it out in future will check the numbers on the seal and get one from their bearing place ?????

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    Nah they'll post here and all will get confused and we'll invent a super rare series 1.5 where the bearing size changed because of a grand prix win in a formula 2 class.
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    What's the setup on R16?

    Doesn't sound like R17. There you would need to machine the bellhousing itself to fit anything larger. Or did I get it wrong and you do machine the bellhousing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    "robmac"
    They are very difficult to get in Europe, so !!!!

    And anybody who takes it out in future will check the numbers on the seal and get one from their bearing place ?????

    Ray
    I have my doubts : I wouldn't be so fast to judge everyone by your own standards.

    It had a similar discussion with the fellow who installed our solar system a couple of months ago.He inadvertently installed the current transformers backward on the supply circuit. His immediate response was to reverse the wiring at the controller.

    I insisted he correct his mistake and do the wiring as specified by the manufacturer.

    Just like DMC's approach: do it once do it properly.

    Having said this, I completely understand your reasoning and parts being unobtanium is a fair reason to modify.
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    Hi
    Renault's use of non standard seal sizes is not new. When I had the R20 I replaced a seal in the rack ends and had to make a very thin sleeve in al to make the difference on the OD. I was in the trade and could not get a better size match. The original seal was not available as a seperate part. Usually you could match the OD or the ID but not both ???? WHY ? Who knows.
    So a skinny sleeve might be a solution.
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    I've just bought one of these seals from Mecaparts. Can check for any numbers on the seal when I get home from work.
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    Checked my new seal from Mecaparts. It says NAK SC 24 38.5 10.

    Can see if I find my old one. But if I remember correctly that one ended up in the bin with a big hole in it.

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    Yes But "R8RX", we need to pay Euro20.00 to post to OZ, whereas the seals are about $6.00 in OZ for the 40mm.

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    Thanks all....the ID part number on the old hard & brittle part, on my desk is similar to R8RX's & marked 'PAUL PRA 24 38.5 10'.

    With difficult/unobtainable parts I would do exactly the same as Ray & most 'real' mechanics to keep/get the vehicle back on the road.

    The sleeve in this case is freeze fitted I would imagine after careful inspection & there is no way to remove it easily without damaging the aluminum, unless I dremel through the steel sleeve then split & remove same.

    No seal from NZ soon & that is exactly what I'll be doing.

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    marked 'PAUL PRA 24 38.5 10'.
    Paulstra perhaps ?

    A French manufacturer of seals, engine mounts and anti vibration products.

    https://www.paulstra-industry.com/societe-en.html

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    Have successfully sourced & will be delivered tomorrow morning from Seal Innovations in Brisbane.
    They now have 9 additional in stock for anyone doing a tranny rebuild....phone 07 3711 4004

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Yes But "R8RX", we need to pay Euro20.00 to post to OZ, whereas the seals are about $6.00 in OZ for the 40mm.

    Ray

    That I am fully aware of

    Thought it maybe would be easier for the next person if they saw a manufacturer name of these seals.

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    Thanks for contributing.
    Some are not after thread counts, but knowledge we can ALL learn from & Ray helped with this as well.
    Keep on with what you are doing. It is appreciated. JG.

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