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    As some of you may know I have had a bit of vandalism happen on my Renault collection.

    I had been searching for hatch and windscreen glass for my R16 but it just gets worse.

    I live in TAS and the cars are stored on a property north of Melbourne and without my knowledge the property had become vacant for a couple of months.

    A car size hole was cut in the fence, and a brick wall was demolished, and my R10 was dragged into the adjoining park next door, windscreens and headlights, smashed etc etc.
    When I arrived at the property the car was still still sitting at the property next door.
    Parts have been ratted from 16 engines, and boxes of packed things strewn everywhere.

    Now the worst of it is some bastard pinched the bonnet and boot lid of the 4CV. So upset, I have been unable to make this post for a couple of weeks.

    What concerns me a bit is that its an enthusiast who knows what they are looking for..
    I hope it's just opportunists and not fellow members / enthusiasts.

    So if anyone see's a 4CV boot and bonnet being sold, please let me know.

    I recently sold my spares 4CV to Neville Sleigh who sold his 4CV collection recently in a job lot (didn't have the room or money to buy x4 4CVs and Neville would not sell the car back to me as originally agreed) so I am looking for the new owner of these, in an attempt to buy the spares car back.

    If anyone has any leads or knows of the new owner, could you please let me know.

    I am still coming to terms with this, and I was planning on leaving the petina / rust as is.. but it looks like its fate may now change.

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    I now have someone living on the property again and have a shipping container I've been packing to secure what I do have, I hope to make a trip back soon and have all my Renaults secure in containers.

    Here's a picture of my sweet little car before it was defaced.


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    Thats a shame. I guess there is no chance of finding the culprits. Add a cheap video system in case they return for more.
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    Appalled to hear this - as you say, the random vandalism is bad enough, but to think that a fellow Renault lover may have stolen parts is just gut-wrenching.

    The only similar issue I have had was the smashing of all glass and denting of panels on an Austin A90 that I had left stored on a property we were renting out in Canberra. The tenant's own children were responsible, but we had so much other trouble with those tenants that compensation for the damage to the car (which was in any case only intended as a parts car) was not pursued.

    We also left another (then) registered A90 with a friend, who used to drive it to work. Some ratfink stole the headlight trims (which I had gone to some trouble to acquire from a distant wrecker)! Grrr!

    Hope that your search for a suitable parts donor is successful.

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    The blood boils
    Sorry to hear this David
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    I can provide front and rear lids for the 4CV. Not perfect but quite reasonable. No rush as they have been hanging up for years and I'm not about to chuck them away.

    You might be able to find some closer than Perth though. I'll send a message around the 4CV Register for you.

    Nasty thing to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-man View Post
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    Sorry to hear this David
    Sypathy appreciated guys.

    I was lucky the 4CV hadn't been dragged out. I don't think the 10 was their target, but it was in the way.
    It also had been ratted (10S dash), but luckily I'd already ratted most of the exterior myself.

    The 4CV had moved and was sitting in a weird position, so I suspect they were interrupted or it was just too hard to steal.

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    I feel like we need a "commiserations" button to express sympathy. Clicking 'like' doesn't seem right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I can provide front and rear lids for the 4CV. Not perfect but quite reasonable. No rush as they have been hanging up for years and I'm not about to chuck them away.

    You might be able to find some closer than Perth though. I'll send a message around the 4CV Register for you.

    Nasty thing to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard W View Post
    I feel like we need a "commiserations" button to express sympathy. Clicking 'like' doesn't seem right.
    I can like yours.
    I was in a bit of a daze when I arrived and didn't file a police report.

    The owner still wants me to as they destroyed their property too, but I see little point wasting their time.
    I might consider it when I am back in Melbourne next (soonish)

    the R10 is still sitting there unfortunately, the current resident has told me he can move it Tuesday, I've thrown him $50 to move it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    Sypathy appreciated guys.

    I was lucky the 4CV hadn't been dragged out. I don't think the 10 was their target, but it was in the way.
    It also had been ratted (10S dash), but luckily I'd already ratted most of the exterior myself.

    The 4CV had moved and was sitting in a weird position, so I suspect they were interrupted or it was just too hard to steal.

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    wow, Irfan view wen't all artistic on these images compressing them.

    further to the story, looks like the council have considered the car abandoned and used it to help block the gate and stop commodores getting in and doing circle work / running a muck.
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    The vandalism I comprehend (though condemn). The thefts disappoint me more as I have always considered the classic Renault scene to be a sort of extended family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    The vandalism I comprehend (though condemn). The thefts disappoint me more as I have always considered the classic Renault scene to be a sort of extended family.
    Me too. I cannot remember another example. Very disappointing.

    Any spare panels in Tasmania I wonder? That's presumably where the car will end up eventually. I have a couple but there must be some replacements closer.
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    I may be jumping to conclusions, it may well be an opportunist, not a fellow enthusiast.
    I'd like to think that.

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    Any spare panels in Tasmania I wonder? That's presumably where the car will end up eventually. I have a couple but there must be some replacements closer.
    Not too much action down here compared to the mainland.

    My 4CV will be stored in Melbourne until atleast the end of the year, maybe longer depending which container it's stored.
    I do have a surplus supply of other parts that may be of use to other members as a trade.. some 4CV doors (don't know how many spare) and Dauphine parts. I need to work out what is surplus next time I visit VIC.

    Fingers crossed I can find the new owner of my spare 4CV and they are interested in selling it back.

    The resident at the property was going to move my car for me, but they don't want to move it now, so I'm going to have to arrange alternatives, before the council decide to dump it, argh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    wow, Irfan view wen't all artistic on these images compressing them.

    further to the story, looks like the council have considered the car abandoned and used it to help block the gate and stop commodores getting in and doing circle work / running a muck.
    turns out the steering knuckle is broken (or the steering rack is missing, I didn't remove it) as the steering wheel doesn't turn the wheels.

    So it may be looking 'too hard' for him with a 4x4 ute and his son alone.

    I should be contacting the council and getting them to move it, as it was directly dumped from the property onto their parkland next door, then further moved into the position it now has on a bed of rocks.
    Who knows what machinery they used to drop the car onto the rocks.. probably the digger.

    However I've dealt with councils before and I'm not sure I want to go there. I can't be in VIC for atleast 2 weeks.

    He's going to give it a red hot go, with his son and get back to me this evening.
    I suggested it could be lifted from the front and try and turn the car (wood under the gearbox to protect the aluminium)
    Or even rolled off the rocks onto it's side.

    He's going to take a look this evening when his son can assist him.
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    Probably a broken steering flector when they tried to turn the wheels - altogether too difficult for a vandal to remove the rack.

    Anyway, good luck with the sort-out.
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    After the Floride v solid object thread this would be my next least liked thread in the Renault forum. Dogs.
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    what low lifes, after owning over 40 renault and peugeot vehicles and working on them over the last 49 years i can,t think of any people i have dealt with regarding these cars who would do something like that.therw seemed to be a mutual respect of other peoples vehicles or property,one would hope that it was not a renault owner who did this.still hope for the r10 i reckon still salvagable,......best wishes regarding outcome for cars.......jim

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    A tractor with forks on the 3-point linkage is better balanced than a front-end-loader used as a crane. If your car is in a rural area you might have neighbours with a tractor. There is a crowd in Pakenham (Vic.) which sells a forklift attachment for reasonable cheap + freight which has worked for me. [I can't lay my hands on the details right now]. I suggest you move it before (any) Council can buggarize it further.
    Not many ordinary people know about Renaults so I suspect the thief is someone who has one or knows who he can flog it to.
    Let's bring back Capital Punishment for this type of offence.
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    Thanks bungalbill.

    All sorted in the end, it took them a few hours and me $70 for their trouble.

    I'll still be able to salvage the engine / gearbox and front end suspension, and even some panels are still salvageable.

    Now I'm just keen on hearing of this new owner of my old 4CV.. hopefully they aren't leaving the state, and they are more cars than the owner needs / wants.
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