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    Hi,

    My mate Jimmy from ZA where asked if some of his cars can be displayed at a new dealer that has opened somewhere in Johannesburg. Here are the photos of them loading some of his cars on a transporter to take to the dealer for you to enjoy so that I'm not the only one drooling over my keyboard.















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    Things like this that will turn me to alcohol!!

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    You'd have to be nervous watching that truck pull away with all your classic Renaults onboard.

    Thanks for the pics, Frans

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    Would be nice to see the rest of the collection if that is just some of his cars.
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    I have a mate who has about 13 classic superbikes from the 1970s. Whenever he wants to display said bikes at a show he gets all his cronies (me included) to take a bike each and arrive at the show separately, at different times and from different directions. The idea is to confuse any organised crime gangs that might put 2 & 2 together and realise there is a potential collection to be had. Or to avoid his entire collection being lost in a single traffic accident as might happen on a mass transporter. I agree with Jo, that would be nerve wracking to have all your toys together on a truck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    Would be nice to see the rest of the collection if that is just some of his cars.
    Hi Col,

    I'll paste some more for you but I'm sure some of them have been up here so there might be duplicates. He's got too many to keep track.























    And some more in various states of restoration.

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    Do you have his address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    I have a mate who has about 13 classic superbikes from the 1970s. Whenever he wants to display said bikes at a show he gets all his cronies (me included) to take a bike each and arrive at the show separately, at different times and from different directions. The idea is to confuse any organised crime gangs that might put 2 & 2 together and realise there is a potential collection to be had. Or to avoid his entire collection being lost in a single traffic accident as might happen on a mass transporter. I agree with Jo, that would be nerve wracking to have all your toys together on a truck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Hi Col,

    I'll paste some more for you but I'm sure some of them have been up here so there might be duplicates. He's got too many to keep track.























    And some more in various states of restoration.

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    Thanks Frans, I like the Estafette very nice.
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    What a superb collection...I'll take the R5 Turbo please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    I have a mate who has about 13 classic superbikes from the 1970s. Whenever he wants to display said bikes at a show he gets all his cronies (me included) to take a bike each and arrive at the show separately, at different times and from different directions. The idea is to confuse any organised crime gangs that might put 2 & 2 together and realise there is a potential collection to be had. Or to avoid his entire collection being lost in a single traffic accident as might happen on a mass transporter. I agree with Jo, that would be nerve wracking to have all your toys together on a truck.

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    what a bloody bastard

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    Neither wild horses or a scantily clad lass could drag that info from me. (I'm not sure about the latter)
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    Nice collection, but I was thinking exactly along the same lines as above when I saw all of that on the one carrier.

    Good to see a 12 in the collection too.
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    Well Frans, you are better off as you (or yours) have a Jet.
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    What an awesome collection. Love the R5T2. Almost had one years ago from NZ. Must have a huge garage or warehouse o store them safely and a dedicated mechanic.

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    Hi,

    Glad to say all cars are back and safe.

    A guy in ZA has been building a few boxes with the R5 internals or ratios in. The R10 has an Alpine engine in with one of these 5-speed gearboxes. This is an overdrive 5th that lowers the rpms and he says it cruises effortlessly at 120+ kph. That used to be an issue for us those days because for instance if we went down on the Durban dash the cars would run constantly at 5000rpm and more for the 700km there and back. Keep in mind that the speed limit there is 120 and most of us were using 13" wheels.

    What the showroom looked like.









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    [QUOTE=Frans;1609656]Hi,

    Glad to say all cars are back and safe.

    A guy in ZA has been building a few boxes with the R5 internals or ratios in. The R10 has an Alpine engine in with one of these 5-speed gearboxes. This is an overdrive 5th that lowers the rpms and he says it cruises effortlessly at 120+ kph. That used to be an issue for us those days because for instance if we went down on the Durban dash the cars would run constantly at 5000rpm and more for the 700km there and back. Keep in mind that the speed limit there is 120 and most of us were using 13" wheels.

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    Just a few more snippets of possible interest , based on what Frans has shared . . .

    The owner runs a sizeable Brake System business and he was able to acquire and put aside a sizeable part of the building to house his collection and to set up a large workshop area for his restoration hobby , including two car lifts , an engine and gearbox assembly and test area . . . . very nice . . . . drool . . . .

    The R8 Gordini is a 1296cc with RA5 cam and is one of the last made , and is in fact a couple of digits away from mine . . . maybe made on the same day . . . and featured in the 50th Anniversary "Box of tricks" article which I wrote and Frans posted here some while back

    The Alpine 110 is also a 1296cc version and is a bespoke RHD factory version . . . not sure if it is the only one , but I don't know of another

    The R5 internals 5 speed boxes that Frans alludes to , are in fact modified R5 boxes , not 353 boxes with R5 internals . . . . a very interesting adaptation and I will try and take some photos and post them if anyone is interested

    The white R8 runs a 1400cc wedge motor built using the famous SA "Alconi" bits from the time in terms of manifolding , etc

    One of his other R8 Gordinis - not shown here - has a very nice R12 Gordini motor adaptation , with a 330 'big box' conversion . . . I have a picture of it somewhere if anyone is interested

    All the best from this side of the "pond" , Carvel
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    I didn't notice the nice A110 was right hand drive. There is one in Oz and was originally restored by Alpine Affaire after being rescued from New Calendonia and was converted to right hand drive in the process. So unlike the one in the photos, is not a bespoke RHD factory version. What a show room - just makes one drool copiously... even with a well equipped workshop to indulge his hobby.

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    [QUOTE=CarvelSA;1609939]
    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Hi

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    The R5 internals 5 speed boxes that Frans alludes to , are in fact modified R5 boxes , not 353 boxes with R5 internals . . . . a very interesting adaptation and I will try and take some photos and post them if anyone is interested

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    Well, please do share whatever you know of this. My 4CV has an R5A motor mated to a 330 transaxle & I was contemplating going down the path of getting the R5A transaxle internals shoved in the 330 casing (crudely simplified) but have an article somewhere of just installing the R5A one (with some fussing about gear selection & output to the wheels) but would be very interested to hear your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarvelSA View Post

    Well, please do share whatever you know of this. My 4CV has an R5A motor mated to a 330 transaxle & I was contemplating going down the path of getting the R5A transaxle internals shoved in the 330 casing (crudely simplified) but have an article somewhere of just installing the R5A one (with some fussing about gear selection & output to the wheels) but would be very interested to hear your advice.

    cheers! Peter
    Hi Peter ,

    It involves fabricating a mounting bracket for the GB , machining the casing to take half shafts , and adapting the gear linkage which comes out of the top of the box ( so selector oil leaks !) . . . .I have asked one of the guys to send me a couple of pics which will better illustrate what has been done , will be in touch shortly I hope ,

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    Hi Peter ,

    It involves fabricating a mounting bracket for the GB , machining the casing to take half shafts , and adapting the gear linkage which comes out of the top of the box ( so selector oil leaks !) . . . .I have asked one of the guys to send me a couple of pics which will better illustrate what has been done , will be in touch shortly I hope ,

    Regards, Carvel
    Oops . . should read "So NO selector oil leaks " . . . sorry

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    [QUOTE=CarvelSA;1610177]
    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post

    Hi Peter ,

    It involves fabricating a mounting bracket for the GB , machining the casing to take half shafts , and adapting the gear linkage which comes out of the top of the box ( so selector oil leaks !) . . . .I have asked one of the guys to send me a couple of pics which will better illustrate what has been done , will be in touch shortly I hope ,

    Regards, Carvel
    Many thanks & I shall await events with considerable interest. It's probably of more general interest but should it be considered more eccentrically particular to me, then please PM me & we can move the conversation to regular email.

    cheers! Peter

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    I too would have an interest in this 5 speed adaptable to R8/10 swing axle suspension.
    A dedicated thread could be started regarding this so as to make the information easier to find in the future. An approximate price would also be of great interest.

    Many years ago a Dauphine G owner in Brisbane fitted an R16TX 5 speed (to go with the 16 TS motor) with appropriate suspension design mods to have upper and lower wishbones with driveshafts.
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    Carvel, any more photos would be very welcome please!


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    i only see one thing wrong with this collection, and that is that i don't own it.
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