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    Anyone in OZ that can connect me or direct me to anyone selling used or rebuilt 1,289 engines. I ahve a friend over here in need of one straight away.Cheers

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    I would contact the North American Renault Owners Club in the first instance, but I would have thought Renault 5's may be a suitable source for engines over there. Not sure of the Renault 12 was ever released over there but they would also be a potential source of engines.

    Marty McFalls was president of that club previously and was a member here. Not sure if he is still active. Someone may know his username and be able to check perhaps.

    You don't state what it is for, so we can't really help if it will fit in the intended vehicle.
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    Yeah, the R12 was released over there.


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    Thanks! Already done that. Vehicle type wouldn't help because it is for a Mexican license built Alpine A 110, which originally had a 688-02 engine (1,108 cc) that is long gone. Sometime during the history of this little car the owner replaced the 688-02 with a Mexican type 810 (1,289 cc) unit. That has finally bit the dust. The current owner wants to put the larger unit in its place, so another 1,289 cc unit would do and we know it fits the engine bay and matches the gearbox.

    Just out of curiosity, would a type 807 (used in R16 TS) or a type 821 or type 841/843 fit into the engine bay of the Dinalpin A 110 and match the gearbox?

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbroman View Post
    Thanks! Already done that. Vehicle type wouldn't help because it is for a Mexican license built Alpine A 110, which originally had a 688-02 engine (1,108 cc) that is long gone. Sometime during the history of this little car the owner replaced the 688-02 with a Mexican type 810 (1,289 cc) unit. That has finally bit the dust. The current owner wants to put the larger unit in its place, so another 1,289 cc unit would do and we know it fits the engine bay and matches the gearbox.

    Just out of curiosity, would a type 807 (used in R16 TS) or a type 821 or type 841/843 fit into the engine bay of the Dinalpin A 110 and match the gearbox?

    Thanks again
    The larger 807 would fit but you need the input shaft and bell housing to make it match up , and than you need to build a engine support system for the block because the 807 engines where mounted different . The other problem also is if there would be adequate clearance for the water pump at the bell housing side of the engine unless you used a Feugo head that has the water pump on the opposite end of the head . The Fuego heads in the USA should be plentiful since they do not easily work on the Lotus Europia cars in fact they would probably trade heads the 807 style for a Fuego style !

    The simpler easier route if you want to increase cc size is using the Alliance 1397 engine the rear engine mounts are already their and if you use the R5 flywheel and oil pan the motor would almost be a complete swap without all the added modifications .

    Just a thought ??

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    The R12's sold in the US had a 1647cc motor, not the 810 sold just about everywhere else.
    It's the same motor that was fitted to the Aussie-spec R18.
    So if your want a 1289cc the US R12 is not your answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbroman View Post
    Thanks! Already done that. Vehicle type wouldn't help because it is for a Mexican license built Alpine A 110, which originally had a 688-02 engine (1,108 cc) that is long gone. Sometime during the history of this little car the owner replaced the 688-02 with a Mexican type 810 (1,289 cc) unit. That has finally bit the dust. The current owner wants to put the larger unit in its place, so another 1,289 cc unit would do and we know it fits the engine bay and matches the gearbox.

    Just out of curiosity, would a type 807 (used in R16 TS) or a type 821 or type 841/843 fit into the engine bay of the Dinalpin A 110 and match the gearbox?

    Thanks again
    Quote Originally Posted by Manic GT View Post
    The larger 807 would fit but you need the input shaft and bell housing to make it match up , and than you need to build a engine support system for the block because the 807 engines where mounted different . The other problem also is if there would be adequate clearance for the water pump at the bell housing side of the engine unless you used a Feugo head that has the water pump on the opposite end of the head . The Fuego heads in the USA should be plentiful since they do not easily work on the Lotus Europia cars in fact they would probably trade heads the 807 style for a Fuego style !

    The simpler easier route if you want to increase cc size is using the Alliance 1397 engine the rear engine mounts are already their and if you use the R5 flywheel and oil pan the motor would almost be a complete swap without all the added modifications .

    Just a thought ??

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    The 841 (non cross flow) & 843 (cross flow) engines also fit in, these engines have the water pump and alternator at the opposite end of the engine to what the 807 engines.

    You will also have to do what Manic GT has described to make these engines mount up in the back of a Dinalpine.

    Some people have also fitted the Fuego 2 litre engine to the A110's.
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    Why has the current engine bit the dust?
    Given they are a wet sleeve engine and fairly easily rebuilt, couldn’t you get the existing engine rebuilt over there?
    Jacques rear engine Renault parts (also in California) should be able to help with the parts and advice I would’ve thought?
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    California !!!!

    Sam's Alpine A110 1600S !!!

    R5 Alpine Motor for Nauli's A110 !!!

    Surely a R12 motor from Mexico is easy to get, but the Alliance 1400cc is the real answer.

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    Marvin McFalls of ROCNA is still there. PM me if you want to contact him.

    Rumour has it that Jacques is retiring but do try him all the same.

    I can't add to the advice already given!

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    Thanks to everyone that helped out and replied. Jacques in El Cajon came though with a very clean 1,289 block (810-06). This will do nicely!
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    Good that rumours of Jacques' retirement are exaggerated. You ought to see what else he has that you might need in the future though....

    Seriously, remove the plugs and get into the main oil gallery and offshoots from it and clean them to death! They always have abrasive deposits that are unstable and can cause havoc with a newly built engine. I've just cleaned an engine and was amazed by how much filth I got out of the oilways, even the rocker shafts.
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    Thanks for the great advice! Will do! The last block was sabotaged though. Turned out to be valve lapping compound! I can't believe what some people will get up to!

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    I have a complete one. It has a bit of a service history, a head recondition, and other work done in 2009 but little use since then. I recently removed it from car and compression tested (185, 190, 190, 200 psi) before removal. Freight could be the killer but I want little for it.

    All the best best with the project.

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