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    As long as there are lawyers out there that can see the stupidity of trying to legally protect from lawsuits electronic machines that have been made and programmed by man, there will be justice. Remember Ralph Nader and the Chev Corvair? VW and Dieselgate? The slightest fault will attract enormous penalties. Or Else! It has to be perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    As long as there are lawyers out there that can see the stupidity of trying to legally protect from lawsuits electronic machines that have been made and programmed by man, there will be justice. Remember Ralph Nader and the Chev Corvair? VW and Dieselgate? The slightest fault will attract enormous penalties. Or Else! It has to be perfect!
    Not perfect, "foolproof" and so far, most electronic equipment has a built in failure lurking with the gremlins just waiting for half a chance to bite you/us, on the proverbial backside... IMHO! of course.. O.K. for coffee machine vending but... protecting them and their makers by law.. recipe for disaster.

    Still there is a precedent in the laws that say speed cameras are prima facie to be considered as accurate if tested every xx months, but that proof is rebuttable, but only if you can ever get them to release the setup manuals and procedures, that are almost top secret. twill be the same story with autonomous cars, all secret as they are commercial in confidence and thus free from prying eyes: nownow:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Iíve noticed that law faculties are looking at the aspect of exploitation of robot ahem Ďcompanionsí. Indicating the potential need for legislation protecting their Ďrightsí.
    Seriously.


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    I thought robots were meant to be exploited.

    Watch "Monique". I would definitely exploit one of those.

    This one:

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/monique
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    Das computermachine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitssparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken bei das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets-relaxen und watch das blinkenlights.

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    Absolutely Sherlock -
    https://www.autonews.com/executives/...es-about-japan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Absolutely Sherlock - https://www.autonews.com/executives/...es-about-japan Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    Not just Nissan btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_scandal

    Not just Japan: https://www.theage.com.au/world/indo...24-gdjz8w.html Regardless of the fact that the pollutants didn't match the chemicals used in their process plant AFAIK, the foreign senior staff were stuck in Indonesia for years until the legal matters worked through.

    You'd be quite brave to take on an executive position in someone else's legal jurisdiction IMHO. Things happen....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Not just Nissan btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_scandal

    Not just Japan: https://www.theage.com.au/world/indo...24-gdjz8w.html Regardless of the fact that the pollutants didn't match the chemicals used in their process plant AFAIK, the foreign senior staff were stuck in Indonesia for years until the legal matters worked through.

    You'd be quite brave to take on an executive position in someone else's legal jurisdiction IMHO. Things happen....
    Working in someone elseís country is one thing but being the CEO of GM, for instance, with a Japanese involvement would be regarded as outrageous.
    If Ghosn was an American citizen he wouldnít be in this situation I suspect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Working in someone else’s country is one thing but being the CEO of GM, for instance, with a Japanese involvement would be regarded as outrageous.
    If Ghosn was an American citizen he wouldn’t be in this situation I suspect.


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    Its interesting that in that link police claim they found evidence of pollution, but


    On Tuesday, Indonesia's Environment Ministry released its own test results that showed there was no pollution in the bay. Police are standing by the results of their tests. No reasons for the differing test results have been given.
    You gotta wonder about the behind the scenes politics that are going on and overseas mining groups heavily invest in other parts of Indonesia and then you have opportunists that see a way of getting some compensation by exploiting an emotional issue, all too common these days, used to be called greenmail rather than criminal blackmail and one of the reasons that doing any business in such countries is so expensive if you factor in the glad handing and bribes demanded and given to stay in the game.

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    Make no mistake about it.

    Bribes are handed out everywhere, not only in the countries you see mentioned in the papers. The difference may be how legal these bribes are or how easy it is to find out about it, or how interested various parties are in looking into the existence or otherwise of these bribes. Remember the recent banks' story over here?

    It's a very simple law of nature: if it is possible to happen, it is already happening.
    ACHTUNG ALLES LOOKENPEEPERS

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    Still here Carlos !
    https://europe.autonews.com/automake...ecs-love-japan


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    Ghosn out on bail. - ABT!
    https://europe.autonews.com/automake...-107-days-jail


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Ghosn out on bail. - ABT!
    https://europe.autonews.com/automake...-107-days-jail


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    A long slow process and I see the prosecutor can appeal the bail decision, they do make it very hard for the accused in Japan and of course the evidence and rebuttal evidence will be scattered all over the world and will they allow him to even talk with his co-accused who was placed on restricted bail 25/12/2018 (happy Christmas day....)


    I think that Japan's reputation and business standing will be severely tried along with Ghosn and wither goes NISSAN ? I think there is some panic developing among the pointing finger clan.


    Just my assessment of course and we will have to wait and see..

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    Looks like the prosecution lost the appeal or perhaps lost some of the will for the fight. Ghosn is physically out on bail as of this morning.

    I agree there is a certain amount of the image of a fair and just system under scrutiny as well as Carlos Ghosn here. I doubt the upper echelon of Nissan / Mitsubishi thought it would get this much exposure when they started the push to get rid of him. Still some twists and turns to come in this one...
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    We are never going to know exactly how much diplomatic pressure was applied. There being no loss of face is a problem.


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    Itís only just starting, his restrictions are onerous and the cards are stacked to start with -
    https://www.autonews.com/executives/...fight-his-life


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    It’s only just starting, his restrictions are onerous and the cards are stacked to start with -
    https://www.autonews.com/executives/...fight-his-life


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    Links to paid subscription services don't do it for me, Nagaman!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    Links to paid subscription services don't do it for me, Nagaman!
    Works fine for this cheapskate.
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    Ah, first Iíve heard about that problem.
    Heís not allowed to go anywhere other than his counsel and only working hours.
    No mobile phone or communicate with anyone else.
    Constant surveillance.
    Itís a bit like being required to prove you didnít rape your next door neighbor........even though thereís been no complaint.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    Works fine for this cheapskate.
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    Chrome/iPad.....etc?


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    There is a limit to free access to https://europe.autonews.com, which seeing as you have posted so many links to it means that those without a subscription who have been following your posts will run out of access. Click to enlarge below.

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    The link works fine, but there are plenty of other news services carrying the same story.
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    He has the best in the east -
    https://www.autonews.com/executives/...e-and-disguise


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    Ghosn was denied his request to attend a board meeting whilst on bail ..........maybe they thought he might get background updates on the coup.


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    More on the ďhostage justiceĒ system -
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...e-bail-lawyer/


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    Default Carlos Ghosn sacked

    Itís a high stakes game all right -
    https://www.autonews.com/commentary/...s-fall-matters

    And

    https://www.autonews.com/keith-crain...get-fair-trial
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