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    Default Japanese Renault R8/10 !!!

    I was surprised by a visit from Maurice Davin, and His Hino Contessa 1300 the other day. I say it is a Japanese R8, but actually is very different in most ways. Funny the only thing that is very similar is the exhaust sound. It came for inspection for registration, after 17 years of restoration, coming fr0m NZ.

    The engine and gearbox are in the same position, the gearbox looking very similar, bur rear suspension similar to a Beetle. Front suspension rather different, and is controled by torsion bars. Intereior is very Toyota of the day.

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    Lovely example! I remember seeing a Hino Contessa at a dealership somewhere in Newcastle back in the early sixties and comparing it with an R8 I'd seen in a showroom in Wagga Wagga earlier. It looked like a space ship compared with the R8. Pity it handled like a bag of shite!

    P.S: I thought the Contessa originally had a three speed box?
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    Kim,
    It seems the 3 speeds were column shift and 4 speed were floor, and it depends on where they were shipped or assembled.

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    See post from Maurice on this sight, explains well.

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    It was along time ago but I remember poring over the brochure as an unmarried man with a car in my future.......
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    Good you posted this Ray. I drove one of Maurice's Hinos a few years back - interesting. I've seen it in bits and parts of the rear suspension are quite something - the spherical pivoting pieces at the inner ends of the swing axles for example. It's a mighty strong thing - I think of R8 with the Hino Truck Division (now part of Toyota) upscaling the engineering and the cost! Fascinating car and I'm so pleased it is at the rego stage.

    For anyone reading this from the "south east" of SA, there was a dark blue one in Mount Gambier when we lived there in 1972 and I've often wondered what became of it.

    No RERs in Peru that I've seen, although a solitary, early-model Koleos pottered past this morning. Lots of Renault-badged Dacia Dusters thought.
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    WOW!

    So these were made under licence by Toyota in Japan back in the day too?

    That interior is a work of art compared to what I expected to see inside an old 8/10.

    Interesting mix of suspension components, Toyota had all kinds of cool performance sedans at the time (Corona GT's come to mind) so I wonder why they chose that application for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    I was surprised by a visit from Maurice Davin, and His Hino Contessa 1300 the other day. I say it is a Japanese R8, but actually is very different in most ways. Funny the only thing that is very similar is the exhaust sound. It came for inspection for registration, after 17 years of restoration, coming fr0m NZ.

    The engine and gearbox are in the same position, the gearbox looking very similar, bur rear suspension similar to a Beetle. Front suspension rather different, and is controled by torsion bars. Intereior is very Toyota of the day.

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    Looks like a cross between the Renault R8 and a Triumph 2000 Mk1
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    So this would be classed as a Renault Ricer..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    So this would be classed as a Renault Ricer..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    Looks like a cross between the Renault R8 and a Triumph 2000 Mk1
    Both the Contessa and the Triumph were styled by Michelotti........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    Both the Contessa and the Triumph were styled by Michelotti........
    That explains it then.
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    It looks to be in superb condition...
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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    Looks like a cross between the Renault R8 and a Triumph 2000 Mk1
    AFAIK the Michelotti Contessa design (no wonder it has "Triumph" elements) won an award at the time. They're pretty things I reckon. Maurice's is an NZ-assembled car if I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nauli View Post
    It looks to be in superb condition...
    It has had what can only be described as a meticulous restoration to extremely original condition. Maurice's work is of a special standard.

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    Last one i saw was parked behind a garage / caravan park at tyndale nsw .it disappeared some time ago probable gone to landfill ,would be interesting to also check out the skodas of the era as they also were rear engine rear wheel drive ,pugs ps excellent resto on the contessa

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    It has had what can only be described as a meticulous restoration to extremely original condition. Maurice's work is of a special standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    Looks like a cross between the Renault R8 and a Triumph 2000 Mk1
    Michelotti…..
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    Nice find Ray!

    Man thatís mega rare even more so than a Gordini!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordini Pervert View Post
    Nice find Ray! Man that’s mega rare even more so than a Gordini!!
    It's a lovely car, the Hino, and the restoration is just superb. Right now, as far as I know, the number of "non-Gordini" R8s fully licensed in Perth is one (ours), against at least 3 R8 Gordinis and 5 Alpine A110s, unless there's an R8 out there I don't know of. There are a few others not going and (one) on concessional licensing and one that really will go down near Collie. Very rare cars, Renault R8s. And very nice cars, I'd add, preaching to the converted!
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    That looks rather ghastly to me. The interior seems nice. And do I see a petrol tank where the rear radiator partition should be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    That looks rather ghastly to me. The interior seems nice. And do I see a petrol tank where the rear radiator partition should be?
    In order:

    It's actually very nice in the flesh and won a design award for the styling. Think rear-engined Triumph Dolomite.

    Interior is classic 1960s Japanese. Clean and neat.

    No, that's the fan shroud. I think the fuel tank is in the R8 location ahead of the engine, above the transaxle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    In order:

    It's actually very nice in the flesh and won a design award for the styling. Think rear-engined Triumph Dolomite.

    Interior is classic 1960s Japanese. Clean and neat.

    No, that's the fan shroud. I think the fuel tank is in the R8 location ahead of the engine, above the transaxle.

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    I don't know how I missed this from November last year. I must admit I much prefer the styling of the Renault but the Hino appears to be far superior quality/build. The interior is much more substantial/luxurious the way it is finished. The engine bonnet is better braced too. I wonder how they differ in weight compared to a Renault? I can see the Triumph design cue but it also seems to have a bit of Datsun Bluebird to me, looking at the dash design and also the side profile of the car. This particular example is mint isn't it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-man View Post
    I don't know how I missed this from November last year. I must admit I much prefer the styling of the Renault but the Hino appears to be far superior quality/build. The interior is much more substantial/luxurious the way it is finished. The engine bonnet is better braced too. I wonder how they differ in weight compared to a Renault? I can see the Triumph design cue but it also seems to have a bit of Datsun Bluebird to me, looking at the dash design and also the side profile of the car. This particular example is mint isn't it!
    Mint barely describes it John. They are well made and rather stronger/beefier than the R8/Dauphine models from which they are derived, due (my words and judgement) to the intervention of Hino's truck division. Inside, it is classic 60s Japanese - I remember driving a column change 1000 cc Colt or similar back in the day and this is similar internally in many ways. Seats are competent but not "Renault" for example. It has a hydraulic clutch, very light and an effective gear change. Lovely engine. Remarkable rear suspension pivots!!

    I don't have the numbers, but I'd guess it is 20% heavier than an R8.

    I'd be happy to own one.

    It's Michelotti styling gives the same clues as Triumphs, not surprisingly.

    They sold a few in Oz, and you have to wonder where they are!
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