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    Hi All,

    When I bought the 21 Turbo, I joined a British Forum and through them I met Jeff, a long time 21 Turbo owner. During a visit one evening he showed me the car and told me the story behind this specific 21 Enduro. Today I went to Hampton Downs to see it in action.

    Back to the story. This is how it is remembered by me and if some of the detail is slightly wrong then it will still not change the crux of the story. He had this R21 standing in his yard for 5 years and never ran. On moving house he attempted to start the R21 with a charged battery and what do you know, the car started but ran on 21/2 to 3 cylinders.

    Then the 24 Hours of Lemons came into the picture. He decided to do this and each of his staff members will become a team member. So the 21 was pulled into the workshop and got new oil and filters, spark plugs were so bad that 2 electrodes going into the porcelain were rusted off and pulled right out. From there the 3 cylinders on the first start-up. After this treatment the 21 was rearing to go, after all it is a low mileage car (150,000 miles) with plenty of life left in him.

    The first 24 Hour was entered and with some street practicing the staff was ready at the track for the chase and a donor 21 Savannah on a trailor just outside the pits. A lot was to learn but those issues's solutions comes with actual experience. First and only issues encountered with the first 24 Hour was brakes. Overheating, wearing etc. was the main thing and if there was a pad change needed with a pitstop then most of the time waisted was the wait for the pads, rotors and calipers to cool down. However, the R21 flipped the first 24 hours over its shoulder and was ready for more.

    One staff member designed and built a nice holder that bolts onto the shock mounting so that it moves with the steering of the wheel. A piece of flexible PVC garden pipe was clamped to it and the other end was mounted through holes in the front spoiler as a cooling duct. The 21 was ready for it's 2nd 24 Hour of Lemons!!

    So the second 24 Hour was entered and with a huge improvement in the brakes it encountered it second problem during the race. The battery went flat and that during the night, no quick fixes here because the lights do draw a lot from a battery. It got back to the pits and after a quick look the donor 21 Savannah justified it's presence on the trailer because the tensioner bolt was missing. With a tensioned belt and a charging battery the 2nd 24 Hour of Lemons were done and dusted.

    Well, today was the start of it's 3rd 24 hour of Lemons. That is going for it's 72 hours flatout. I spent some time watching and taking some photos and witnessed a pad change. I left after 5 or 6 hours with the 21 keeping a 318 BMW and a 3.8 Holden honest!!

    I don't have the words to describe this achievement other than just "this car is just out of this world". Enjoy a few photos of him in his French mustache outfit. The team is called the "French Fries" There might be some other photos of competitors as well.









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    The clever duct holder that moves with the steering action and keeps the cold air on the rotor.



    Pad change under way.



    The donor car.





    A few of the opposition.











    I guess a gearbox change isn't much for a 24 hour.



    Or a quick head change.



    Or an engine swap. The focus was out but yes it is the crank you see in the corner.



    And this is what fell out.



    I hope you've enjoyed it. I have just shaken my head in disbelieve again.

    Regards, Frans.
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    Those events look fantastic. what a great time they are all having.

    Thanks for the post Frans, that was a great read

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    Hi,

    I haven't spoken to Jeff yet, might still be asleep after the weekend but I noticed in FB the happy faces and photo atthe end of it all. With that info I am almost 100% sure that they have nailed the 3rd 24 hour race as well.

    I stood there on Saturday for a long time spectating and then returning to the pit and went out watching again and then realising that I've been there a few hours, 3 or 4, which leaves another 20 to go. Do you realise how long it actually is?

    This has made a huge impression on me and congratulations to all those guys that attempted it.

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    There was one of these events in WA (Collie Motorplex) last weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Hi,

    I haven't spoken to Jeff yet, might still be asleep after the weekend but I noticed in FB the happy faces and photo atthe end of it all. With that info I am almost 100% sure that they have nailed the 3rd 24 hour race as well.

    I stood there on Saturday for a long time spectating and then returning to the pit and went out watching again and then realising that I've been there a few hours, 3 or 4, which leaves another 20 to go. Do you realise how long it actually is?

    This has made a huge impression on me and congratulations to all those guys that attempted it.

    Regards, Frans
    A very late reply but yes, that 24 hour was completed successfully and the next in line will be on the 11th May. It seems that there is no end to that car.

    Frans.
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    Sounds like you will be looking for a Lemons car Frans?
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    That brings back memories - I had a Savannah of that same colour and model back in 1999. Bought it in London and we spent about 6 months travelling all over Europe - loch ness to Athens. Bought for 700quid, was long enough to sleep in. Great car, should have brought it home...
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    Hi All,

    The 4th 24 hour race was completed faultless as well. This car has now become a legend!!

    Final placement after 24 hours was 25th out of 57.

    Regards, Frans
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    Woop hooo!

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    21 wagon? lovely. We never had those here.

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    Yes it went very well. We did start late (50 minutes) as the alternator top bolt fell out during practice and we had no spare. After drilling out the mounts to suit the only one we could find, Jeff also discovered that the left front wheel bearing was suspect so we swapped out the hub and got going.
    After a total of 22.5 hours on track (short stop for fog) we completed 669 laps of the Hampton Downs national circuit (2.7ks long) and came 25th out of 57. We did start last. The new set up worked great and we all lowered our lap times by an average of 4 seconds.
    Next one is first weekend of September and not much work to do before then.
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    This is my first go at attaching photos so if I stuff it up please let me know.
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    Scrutineering line up on Friday, yes that is a Morris Marina Coupe behind us.
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    Replacing the alternator top bolt which fell out during practise, meant we started last about 50 minutes behind everyone else.
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    Driver change late at night Saturday.
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    After Matt got tapped into the wall on the first corner, right front corner damage, headlight and light bar copped the worst of it, mechanically fine. Had to isolate and insulate wiring as we had a short out which killed the top sign lights and fried the switch for the light bar.
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    Wrecked headlight and bar, thankfully we have a spares car
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    The battery needed some ventilation... surprising amount of bugs on it when we had finished.In pit.jpg
    Tyre check and front brake pad change, also double checked wiring after repairs from the shunt earlier. Track was closed at this time due to fog.
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    The end, 669 laps later we made it with the car mostly in one piece. A few repairs and modifications before the next race in September again at Hampton Downs.
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    Congratulations - both on successfully keeping this car going for so long, and for successfully posting photos on your first try!! A number of well-known AF identities do a lot of grumbling about posting photos, and complain that it's too hard!

    Also a big welcome to Aussie Frogs . Don't know why the Renault crowd have been so slow to react!

    Very impressed with the amount of space you had in the pits - plenty of room to spread things out! Also I think the battery ventilation was a good idea - no-one likes an exploding battery .

    Cheers

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    Thanks Alec,

    We are all pleasantly surprised about how well the car has gone.
    Even the owner of the car is surprised that we haven't had to do an engine swap yet.
    It only has 150,000 miles on it, so you could call it well run in by now...

    Apart from the damage to repair, we are looking at a clutch replacement before the race in September as well a front pads and a fresh set of tyres but apart from that we'll drive it back on race day and give it hell.

    We will reduce the battery ventilation, pain in the butt to keep cleaning the bugs off.

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