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    Default Question: 1.4 -1.3 Flywheel swap?

    Hi All

    I sold a clutch kit to someone with an R12 1.3 (842-01) and it turns out the clutch kit was for a 1.4 (no idea why I had it).

    Anyway they think among the rubble they may have a 1.4 flywheel and rather than hunt down another clutch they're thinking of swapping flywheels.

    Cant say I have the foggiest notion as to whether its doable. Anyone tried it?

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    (Yes I know there's people looking for 1.4 flywheels and clutches but right now I don't own either.)

    All the best

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    As I remember the old engines up to the 1,3 have an even bolt pattern while the 1,4 have a slightly uneven bolt pattern to make sure only one position is possible.

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    Yeah, pretty sure the number of bolts and/or the pattern (as reidaruf mentioned) varies between the two flywheels.
    I alluded to the fact I may know a buyer for the 1.4 kit if it becomes up for sale in your wanted ad.
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    As far as I can remember, without accurate dimensions for the old 1100s, they had a 5 bolt small center hole about 37mm dia. Then they became around the 1300 era 7 bolt 37mm centers. And the very last ones became 7 bolt 47mm centers.

    So it should be easy to see if they have a 7 bolt small center or 7 bolt large center. In ZA they all took the 180 mm clutch plate, some were heavy and looked like a porridge plate with a heavy ridge on the outer edge but they were the same from the base of the flywheel too the clutch face. (thickness).

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    1.4 Flywheel (Lightened) vs 1.3 flywheel (visible on Blue engine/Blue rocker cover)
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    I have a few R12 new pressure plates if you need them [ or one ] $40 ea. 03 52218915

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolman View Post
    I have a few R12 new pressure plates if you need them [ or one ] $40 ea. 03 52218915
    What diameter please?
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    According to my research the R10 1108cc is, 160mm, the 1289cc is R12 170mm, and the R12 1.4 is 180mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exfrogger View Post
    According to my research the R10 1108cc is, 160mm, the 1289cc is R12 170mm, and the R12 1.4 is 180mm.
    I believe that’s correct too BUT, I’ve never confirmed if that is flywheel diameter or clutch driven plate diameter. Mine are all installed in cars, so can’t measure for you.
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    Pretty sure thats the diameters on the clutch plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolman View Post
    I have a few R12 new pressure plates if you need them [ or one ] $40 ea. 03 52218915
    My question about diameter was actually directed at the pressure plates you have in stock. I should have been clearer!

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