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    My daughters 2008 megane 2lt diesel, leather interior well looked after regular service etc has just died. Mechanic said the timing belt snapped, hasn't looked but said most likely valves will be bent. He needs to strip the engine down which will be exxy so i said no just need to let it go. It was perfect up until this point.....What is it worth?

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    As is common with this sort of thing, it is worth what someone will pay. How many Kimís? Man or auto? One in nice condition with low Kimís, say 100k, maybe $4.5 to 5k to the right person. With a broken engine either needing up to $2.5 k to fix, or a replacement engine that you would then do all the belts, idlers and water pump on for nearly the same money at the mechanical workshop.

    Sounds harsh, but maybe $1k to 1.5k for your car if it was exceptional, in my mind. If the buyer has the ability to repair or replace the engine themselves, then they may do very well, depending on damage.
    Your car though is 10 years old and not overly popular in Australia, and there are not dozens that would want to buy it with engine damage, at almost any price. You only need one of course.

    Price. Two years ago I bought a pristine Ď08 2L petrol manual Megane for $5700 with the timing belt /water pump recently done by the dealer with 42k on it. Now with 85k, $3500? $4000?
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    Thanks Alan, Yeah it's an auto with about 130K on it. I was pretty much thinking what you've said.

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    How frustrating for you and your daughter! Your mechanic is probably right about the bent valves, but there is a 2 lt diesel engine series (RHY - and possibly others?) used in Pugs & Citroens which snaps rocker arms instead of bending valves in the event of a broken timing belt. It is much cheaper to replace rockers than valves, partly because the head does not have to be removed. Sorry I have no idea whether any diesels used in Renaults have a similar feature.

    Even if valves are bent, I wonder if it might still be worth considering repair? If it's a good car, which you know at least some of the history of, and one you trust to keep your daughter safe, it seems to me it may actually be value for money to get it fixed, seeing it's worth so little if you don't. Assuming you will be the one stumping up the cash, and that you won't be buying a new car, you risk ending up with not just a 'new' car, but a new set of problems!

    I recently outlaid a substantial amount of money - probably similar to the car's value - on replacing the timing and accessory belts, plus water pump and all idlers and tensioners (plus fixing some oil leaks), on an 18 year old Pug 406 V6. I consider it money well spent, because it is a well-engineered vehicle which I expect will continue to provide us with safe and reasonably economical transport for several years to come.

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    Hi Alec,

    I'm starting to think the megane is not suited to the aussie climate or it's just a problematic car or maybe that was just my daughters either way I'm not spending anymore money on it and won't be buying one again.......... bought a lexus is200 hopefully that will be a little more reliable/less problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (-)_(-) View Post
    Hi Alec,

    I'm starting to think the megane is not suited to the aussie climate or it's just a problematic car or maybe that was just my daughters either way I'm not spending anymore money on it and won't be buying one again.......... bought a lexus is200 hopefully that will be a little more reliable/less problematic.

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    Was the timing belt replaced on time? Hard to blame the car if the maintenance wasn't done. Renaults are no more prone to timing belt failures than anything else, and just as prone to neglect or poor workmanship.
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    Hi Haakon,

    Not sure if the timing belt was ever replaced, we had it for a year, new solenoid $1,000. New clock spring for airbag $700, New brakes and rotors plus service $1,000..........was just told the solenoid needed doing again, lucky it was a week away from spending another $1,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Was the timing belt replaced on time? Hard to blame the car if the maintenance wasn't done. Renaults are no more prone to timing belt failures than anything else, and just as prone to neglect or poor workmanship.
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    I woud argue about that statement. The petrol engines of the '00s certainly were more prone to timing belt failure than most. Due mainly to the plastic idler pulley coverings IMHO. This fails over time, cracks and falls off, then the belt is slack and jumps the teeth. Down hill from there and usually an engine writeoff. The belt would be good for double the time as would the general engine mechanicals. Not sure about the diesel engines ?
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    I'd go for pulleys too! A friend recently had to spend an absolute fortune on his Audi, always correctly serviced.

    If that Megane is an auto and has an issue with the transmission, I'd struggle to spend more money on the engine unless the car is exceptional and is to be kept for years. However, it is unreasonable to blame Renault, our climate and question reliability when you have trouble with an 8-year old second-hand purchase - who knows how it has been treated?? France is a big hot country too, after all, and Meganes seem to behave pretty well (although I'd avoid an auto I would admit...). One of our Scenics had never had a cambelt change when we bought it as an 8-year old one-owner car, serviced by the book by a Renault dealer except no evidence of cambelt, accessory belt or coolant changes. The dealer wouldn't answer the question "why?" at all.....

    I'd agree with Alan re value too. What do you pay for a fridge that isn't working, after all. Bad luck, that is for sure. Whatever you buy, second-hand, there are a few basic things to get checked, and cambelt/pulleys and fluid changes by the book are high on the list. It is by no means just Renault with these modern design elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan moore View Post
    Price. Two years ago I bought a pristine ‘08 2L petrol manual Megane for $5700 with the timing belt /water pump recently done by the dealer with 42k on it. Now with 85k, $3500? $4000?
    Much the same as our newest Scenic - about $5500 after we'd had belt/water pump/engine mounts/harmonic balancer changed out after a $3,100 purchase. It's manual of course.... Fantastic value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (-)_(-) View Post
    Hi Haakon,

    Not sure if the timing belt was ever replaced, we had it for a year, new solenoid $1,000. New clock spring for airbag $700, New brakes and rotors plus service $1,000..........was just told the solenoid needed doing again, lucky it was a week away from spending another $1,000
    Jesus... Who did you take it to for servicing, those are stupidly expensive prices!!!

    And not knowing the status of the timing belt suggests it was not done... Cant blame the car for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaahn View Post
    Hi Haakon
    I woud argue about that statement. The petrol engines of the '00s certainly were more prone to timing belt failure than most. Due mainly to the plastic idler pulley coverings IMHO. This fails over time, cracks and falls off, then the belt is slack and jumps the teeth. Down hill from there and usually an engine writeoff. The belt would be good for double the time as would the general engine mechanicals. Not sure about the diesel engines ?
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    Plastic pulleys are fine - if you replace them on time even if the kms are not there. I've never heard of blaming plastic belt covers before though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Plastic pulleys are fine - if you replace them on time even if the kms are not there. I've never heard of blaming plastic belt covers before though...
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    I think you misunderstood my point. It is the plastic covering put on the OD of the pulleys that comes off. Not the plastic belt covers. Perhaps i did not phrase it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Was the timing belt replaced on time? Hard to blame the car if the maintenance wasn't done. Renaults are no more prone to timing belt failures than anything else, and just as prone to neglect or poor workmanship.
    I agree with Haakon. Every Renault specialist I know will fit a timing belt kit not just a belt and the plastic pullys will be replaced too.
    A broken belt comes down to owner neglect. Can't blame the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaahn View Post
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    I think you misunderstood my point. It is the plastic covering put on the OD of the pulleys that comes off. Not the plastic belt covers. Perhaps i did not phrase it well.

    Jaahn
    Ah right, that makes more sense They do fail, but its generally one thats old. If they're plastic, you have to treat them in the same way as the belt and replace on time as well as kms - hence as Dave says you should always just fit a kit.
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