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    Default Forgive me for I have sinned.

    Hi All,

    Yes, I have done the deal and I must admit that I had hundreds of valid reasons why I had to do this! The one reason is more valid than the previous one.

    I'm sure that you will understand, not so sure about SWMBO.

    Pick up will be on Monday eve, can't wait.













    This is a 1990 model, 28 years old immaculate for the age. Mileage is low for the years as well.

    As mentioned, the deal is done, is it a good deal for $5000.00?

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    May I be the first to congratulate you! May the two of you have a long and happy life. May your battery stay full and your tires round. And most of all may you KICK ASS!!
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    Yes indeed you have done very well. Looks bloody fantastic.

    I'm sure SWMBO will get over it. As they say, it is easier to ask for forgiveness than for approval.!

    No need to say any "Hail Marys" or talk to the local priest my son... A very understandable decision.
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    And you did just recently buy her a new car? - buttering her up we’re we?
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    I think that is a very nice car.

    A bit steep for a 20yo car, but if you prefer it, why not?

    Your back will thank you for it, in any case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    I think that is a very nice car.

    A bit steep for a 20yo car, but if you prefer it, why not?

    Your back will thank you for it, in any case.
    I think it is a very good price if you look on the net. A very underrated car with a sub 7 sec 0-100 time. A quick look on internet showed one for 8000 pound. Maybe have a read about it and tell me again it is steep . I will still not believe you. It was also known as the French Cosworth and one of the quickest production family saloons of 1988.
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    That looks superb Frans. Great performance in great condition and with what I'd expect is bullet-proof mechanicals. Will you put a roof over the back yard or front yard?

    I think the price very reasonable given the model, the very low km and the condition it seems to be in. I always argue it is always wothwhile to pay top $$ for the right second-hand car. We did that for a certain R8 in 1973 and have never regretted it.

    It'll be a superb cruising car too. Rare as hens' teeth.

    Great.
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    NICE !!!!!! Nice !!!! nice !!!!!.........
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    Yeah man that thing is the right kind of crazy good!

    Ah looking forward to the various threads associated with this

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    I love it, looks great. I'm envious. Rare in Oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    I love it, looks great. I'm envious. Rare in Oz.
    Did any come here? Even a standard 21 is pretty rare. It'd be a lovely car, wouldn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan View Post
    May I be the first to congratulate you! May the two of you have a long and happy life. May your battery stay full and your tires round. And most of all may you KICK ASS!!
    dammit sir, surely you mean 'kick arse' (bloody american cultural imperialism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post

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    one of the quickest production family saloons of 1988.
    There's the point.

    That may have been fast for 1988, but by today's standard is not that fast. I am sure you can buy faster, newer japanese cars for less especially over there where you don't have our taxes.

    But I didn't think fast was the aim?
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    Default Hmmm You are forgiven my son :(

    Hi Franz
    You are forgiven my son Despite falling for a pretty body, soft comforts and being lead astray by the temptations of puff power. You will now be condemned to the hell of front wheel drive and wheel spin and understeer.
    But we forgive you and may your new love not frustrate you excessively despite others who might try to lead you to the other side and fast J-p cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaahn View Post
    Hi Franz
    You are forgiven my son Despite falling for a pretty body, soft comforts and being lead astray by the temptations of puff power. You will now be condemned to the hell of front wheel drive and wheel spin and understeer.
    But we forgive you and may your new love not frustrate you excessively despite others who might try to lead you to the other side and fast J-p cars.
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    Wasn't there an all-wheel drive version of this?

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    Not sure about the 21 but there was an all wheel drive Safrane. 80 were made so I was told. In 2012 there was supposed to be only 40 or less left. I was lucky enough to at least drive one around in a yard. I would like one of them for sure. I was always a fan of the 25 this would be even better. Unfortunately they are all left hand drive.

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    Yes there are a few. I donít know what numbers but I saw 2 that was 4 x 4.
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    Funny about 4 X 4 in a smaller car other than purpose built 4 X 4. Japan has 4 X 4 in Toyo Yaris old Echo's etc to solve the winter problem driving in snow. I assume it's the same for Europe and a market for for it.

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    My comment from my wife's & a daughter's Foresters is that AWD is a great thing on a twisty wet road & climbing a wet hill.

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    The Renault 21 is also as far as I know the only car that came in north/south & east/west engine versions in the same model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    The Renault 21 is also as far as I know the only car that came in north/south & east/west engine versions in the same model.
    I think it was at the time but has been joined by the MG ZT 260 (which had a V8 crammed in longitudinally and converted to RWD).

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    Hi Frans

    That's a good buy for NZ$5000. We saw a black R21 Turbo Quatra in Sedan just north of Paris on our recent trip. I did ask if it was for sale and got a polite"non".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    Not sure about the 21 but there was an all wheel drive Safrane. 80 were made so I was told. In 2012 there was supposed to be only 40 or less left. I was lucky enough to at least drive one around in a yard. I would like one of them for sure. I was always a fan of the 25 this would be even better. Unfortunately they are all left hand drive.
    That particular Safrane was just remarkable - all the fruit too, not just AWD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzamac View Post
    Hi Frans

    That's a good buy for NZ$5000. We saw a black R21 Turbo Quatra in Sedan just north of Paris on our recent trip. I did ask if it was for sale and got a polite"non".

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    Nice photo Bazza. We can tell you were on the wrong side of the world too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by col View Post
    the renault 21 is also as far as i know the only car that came in north/south & east/west engine versions in the same model.
    r5???
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