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    Default 11th hour R12 virage wagon RHR lense request

    Hi guys, Im preparing my old virage wagon to drive on the boat to TAS and take home (this Saturday night)

    I discovered when I arrived at my storage shed, that my cars have been vandalised (smashed windscreens etc)

    I have sourced some windscreens from a lovely renault tragic in Geelong (thanks Ian)

    However I have now just discovered the RHR lense (brake/indicator), reverse/ numberplate lights and plastic grille have also been removed

    Im not too fussed about the plastic grille or number plate lights (I can rig something for the trip) but for 'presentation' reasons Id rather not 'make do' with the tail light.

    Does anyone in Melb have a spare they can sell / lend me for the trip?

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    Id be eternally greatful.

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    Thankyou Ian from Geelong for the windscreens,

    And thanks Bruce for your kind donation of an indicator lense.

    Unfortunately due to further vandalism under the bonnet, I wasn't able to catch my boat, so I'm booked in on Monday.

    Said 'vandals' ripped out every hose wire and cable they could grab.

    Only damage under there I could find was a broken PCV valve plastic T piece, and missing breather hoses. Things are (almost) hooked up bar 1 or 2 hoses.

    It's also now missing air-cleaner, I've borrowed the carb cover and all the distributor leads from my 69 16TS.
    I also grabbed an air filter from a Fuego, but I think it's going to be too big to fit anywhere.

    I managed to get it started last night (after my boat left) albeit rough, was encouraging enough for me to book a new boat Monday night..

    I'll be doing a few trips to supercheap to get this little car sorted, and made a little more presentable.
    One thing I am still seeking is the rear facing Reverse and numberplate illumination lenses.
    Not critical, I'm seeing if I can make do.

    Watch this space.
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    Hi vivid.

    If you had posted here I would have sent you lenses and plate lights plus reverse/fog lights.

    I have some other bits you may need if you're interested, all for the price of postage.

    Offer still stands, but parts are on the other side of the country.
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    Double bugger Vivid. Hope you get it sorted out. Safer in the Apple Isle I hope....
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    What is wrong with people that they do this senseless damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berridale View Post
    What is wrong with people that they do this senseless damage?
    ICE!

    Turns out it's likely a tenant of the property that was kicked out, also damaged the house on the property and stole some stuff.

    Thanks so much guys.

    Well.. update to the story, I missed my boat as the car wasn't ready.
    Got it started, going sweet... found the top half of a rear lense in good condition so I cut them both in 1/2 to make a good one!


    Took the car round the block a few times.. gordini suspension nice and tight, R18 box with tight chages.
    Ugly car but great drive.

    Until... BANG.. the rear gearbox/engine mount let go

    Ripped out the exhaust and tore it from the engine downpipe.. doh.

    So missed boat #2 (this is getting expensive!!)

    I am a member of RACT Ultimate cover, so I've given them a call and awaiting their response.
    RACV mechanic came out and confirmed the car isn't immediately repairable or drivable.

    Thankyou schlitzaugen for the offer, I may still take you up on that.

    I don't think I'll be driving her home, (shame I was looking forward to it).


    ... Oh forgot to mention, found the grille, pinched a headlight from an R16 and the carby shroud.
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    Bad luck. Hope you get it sorted and across the ditch.

    Cheers
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    ah crap dude! time for a warm tea when you get home no doubt!

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    Thanks guys, I'll get her home somehow.

    Still waiting to hear back from the RACT how they are going to proceed.
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    The saga continues...

    RACT have decided because I dragged the car home on a rope, 500m to my relatives house, and tied up the exhaust (also with a rope, so it wasn't dragging on the road) they considered that 'home repair'.

    So they have now told me I need to take it to a mechanic to diagnose that its a major mechanical or electrical failure that will take longer than 48 hours to fix, (at my expense) then they will recover the vehicle to TAS.

    Moral of the story, don't touch the car.. I don't consider what I did 'home repairs' but that is what the RACV mechanic put down.. not HAPPY!
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    Wow, fancy a piece of rope breaking the insurance company.

    that is annoying,

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    The saga continues...

    RACT have decided because I dragged the car home on a rope, 500m to my relatives house, and tied up the exhaust (also with a rope, so it wasn't dragging on the road) they considered that 'home repair'.

    So they have now told me I need to take it to a mechanic to diagnose that its a major mechanical or electrical failure that will take longer than 48 hours to fix, (at my expense) then they will recover the vehicle to TAS.

    Moral of the story, don't touch the car.. I don't consider what I did 'home repairs' but that is what the RACV mechanic put down.. not HAPPY!
    Bloody hell! You'd hope for the benefit of the doubt, wouldn't you.

    I had recently an RACWA refusal to do anything but provide a flatbed with a trivial Citroen CX problem because it had stopped in a bus lane not 50 m further on round an intersection, on the grounds of safety. At least that was a safety issue on a busy road. It was a loose carby jet and I was picking up grandson - heavy traffic and you couldn't hear yourself think, which doesn't help!!

    Hope you get it sorted easily, or at least relatively easily.

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    Yup, fun and games.

    Further update, they have agreed to ignore the comments of the RACV mechanic that I'd proceeded to work on the vehicle.

    I think as I'd put the car on ramps, had a light under it and had chained the back of the motor up, tied the broken exhaust up with rope.. that I was commencing repairs.

    You live and learn I guess.

    So they have agreed to tow it up to 10km to a repairer, so I have booked it in to a place 750m away tomorrow.

    Only concern I now have is the missing reverse / numberplate lenses, that could make the car 'unroadworthy' which is another out for them.

    might go buy some lunch boxes to cover up the broken globe holders on the back.

    bit of a grey area, as with a permit you are supposed to take off the numberplates.

    And as I understand it a rear white globe 'may' be acceptable for reverse.. not sure.
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    And some cars of that vintage didn't even come with rear reversing lights / parkers (like my 12)

    You'll be fine.
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    so... maybe I should take them off!!? (what is left of the plastic lense holders)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Wow, fancy a piece of rope breaking the insurance company.

    that is annoying,
    Silver rope Bowie.. great stuff!

    I've got her booked into the local mechanic around the corner, RAC has organised a tow 750m from my house

    Mechanic told me he would 'work with me'.
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    Another update...

    I'm still not home, but booked a plane trip home, so either way I'll be leaving the R12 here for now.

    Mechanic worked with me, all good.. RACT got what they needed to enable my 'Ultimate benefits'.

    They will tow it to the boat, tow it from the boat to my house for recovery, BUT they don't cover the Bass Straight crossing!

    So that would be up to me, and as a non-goer, it would have to go on as freight. $1500 - $2000 on the Spirit.

    That isn't going to happen.

    I doubt I'll have any luck, but I am going to try speak to a manager today and point out.. if I pick the car up in Devonport, and they cover the ferry, there will be a substantial saving to them (tow down the Island is approx $2700 worth)

    Car is still sitting at the mechanic, still trying to decide what to do!
    Apparently there are no time limits to me recovering the vehicle, but the moment 'any' work is done on the car it voids the cover.

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    What a saga. I'm feeling for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    What a saga. I'm feeling for you!
    Thanks John.

    Could be worse, I could have no where to stay!

    I/we are staying with the in-laws.

    Car has broken rear engine / gearbox mount, broken exhaust downpipe, an exhaust support, I think some of the loom was crushed, and the starter seems to have given up (brand new battery) burned or welded itself.

    I understand the starters are pretty common to fit the R12, Kangoo, Clio etc?

    At the moment Spirit of Tas is only running 1 boat as the other is in dry dock, so tickets are in short supply and space fills up quickly.

    I couldn't get the car home before the family flew home, so I booked a flight next week with the family.
    Still trying to work out where I park the car until I sort something, and trying to see if there is a cheap option to backload onto the ferry.


    on the positive side, my airport parking where I left my Hyundai just cost me 90c to extend a week, because I booked it through RACT. I think it may be a mistake, but it has been paid for, and the lady on the phone told me it wasn't.

    Small miracles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    Another update...

    I'm still not home, but booked a plane trip home, so either way I'll be leaving the R12 here for now.

    Mechanic worked with me, all good.. RACT got what they needed to enable my 'Ultimate benefits'.

    They will tow it to the boat, tow it from the boat to my house for recovery, BUT they don't cover the Bass Straight crossing!

    So that would be up to me, and as a non-goer, it would have to go on as freight. $1500 - $2000 on the Spirit.

    That isn't going to happen.

    I doubt I'll have any luck, but I am going to try speak to a manager today and point out.. if I pick the car up in Devonport, and they cover the ferry, there will be a substantial saving to them (tow down the Island is approx $2700 worth)

    Car is still sitting at the mechanic, still trying to decide what to do!
    Apparently there are no time limits to me recovering the vehicle, but the moment 'any' work is done on the car it voids the cover.

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    From what I read you have a broken gearbox cross member rubber mount or maybe two, and the exhaust has come apart.

    The rubber mounts are easy to replace, if the exhaust is not damaged that also should be easy enough to repair.

    Fix those other small things then drive it to the boat, will be far cheaper that that ridiculous price you have got so far
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    A wagon in Victoria.. howmuchyouwnatforit

    Annoying battle you have been having, total win re the airport parking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid View Post
    Thanks John.

    Could be worse, I could have no where to stay!

    I/we are staying with the in-laws.

    Car has broken rear engine / gearbox mount, broken exhaust downpipe, an exhaust support, I think some of the loom was crushed, and the starter seems to have given up (brand new battery) burned or welded itself.

    I understand the starters are pretty common to fit the R12, Kangoo, Clio etc?

    At the moment Spirit of Tas is only running 1 boat as the other is in dry dock, so tickets are in short supply and space fills up quickly.

    I couldn't get the car home before the family flew home, so I booked a flight next week with the family.
    Still trying to work out where I park the car until I sort something, and trying to see if there is a cheap option to backload onto the ferry.


    on the positive side, my airport parking where I left my Hyundai just cost me 90c to extend a week, because I booked it through RACT. I think it may be a mistake, but it has been paid for, and the lady on the phone told me it wasn't.

    Small miracles.
    Phew. I think the R12s, or some of them, had an Australian Bosch starter. Ring David Cavanagh at French Connection.

    Col's right of course, if you can.

    Good luck.
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    I think you are spot on Col.

    Dunno if it makes much of a difference, but this is an R18 gearbox.

    The exhaust sheared off just back from the engine down pipe 'turn'.

    Bosch, great news, thought so!

    I've spoken to David C a lot in the last week
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    The starter motor issue would be the starter shorting out to the left chassis rail as they run pretty close when installed into an R12.

    The starter will be a Paris Rhone of some description.
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    Wait.. you still have a starter dog at the front? That should kick it to get it on and off a boat

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