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    Default Parts book for R17/18 395 gearbox !!!

    If somebody has a parts book for the 395 gearbox in the R17/18 I would appreciate a scan done of the gearbox nose casing, so I can get the part number of the seals on the gear selection cross shaft. I have a picture but no part numbers.

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    You don't need no parts numbers, Ray.

    Just measure the shaft and the casing to get the ID and OD of the seal and see your local friendly bearing supplier. They're a common size. That's how I bought mine.
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    Skip Renault part numbers, they generally mean nothing 40 years on. Easier to just go by size as Schlitzy says. I might have the book. I'll look. Renault Parts books from back then usually give seals and bearings as sizes as well.

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    Well it is a Renault Only part as the seal is 16x22.8x4.8, and I was told by my Renault part supplier (Very Good) in UK that he needs a part number, as he did not have the "older cars" on his data-base. ???????
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    Some people have strange perspectives on "older"!!
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    Probably 5/8 x 7/8 x 3/16 in old measurements.

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    No ! No! No!

    On a Renault, don't be Daft !!!
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    Quick photo from PR1002 showing casing for a 395-00 box fitted to R17s in some markets

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    Well it is a Renault Only part as the seal is 16x22.8x4.8, and I was told by my Renault part supplier (Very Good) in UK that he needs a part number, as he did not have the "older cars" on his data-base. ???????

    It could only be a Renault only part if Renault themselves had made them and banned everybody else in the world from making them.

    My guess is you're just going to pay an inflated price to buy something that the supplier themselves gets from a bearing wholesaler.
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    Default Ray try this

    Parts book for R17/18 395 gearbox !!!-screen-shot-2018-06-13-10.25.48-pm.jpg
    With the help of Mr Google i came up with this number several times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    It could only be a Renault only part if Renault themselves had made them and banned everybody else in the world from making them.

    My guess is you're just going to pay an inflated price to buy something that the supplier themselves gets from a bearing wholesaler.
    Absolutely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jensen View Post
    Quick photo from PR1002 showing casing for a 395-00 box fitted to R17s in some markets

    Jensen you are the closest, but maybe the the page before or after, with the selector shaft, as in my attached picture.
    Thanks, RayParts book for R17/18 395 gearbox !!!-365-end-case-detail-sml.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by robint View Post
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    With the help of Mr Google i came up with this number several times...
    "robint" I will chase your part down,

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    "robint"'s part number is correct for the seal size, and email is sent to my Renault Parts Service in UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Some people have strange perspectives on "older"!!
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    Anything before 2008 is an "old car" ............

    But good spares people can find a lot of stuff for 70's and 80's Renaults, from UK and France. I bought difficult parts for a R5 A/G about 5 years ago, and some R18 parts 2 years ago. Mainly engine and gearbox related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geckoeng View Post
    John, Anything before 2008 is an "old car" .........… But good spares people can find a lot of stuff for 70's and 80's Renaults, from UK and France. I bought difficult parts for a R5 A/G about 5 years ago, and some R18 parts 2 years ago. Mainly engine and gearbox related. Ray
    Yes, alas. Me too. Hence the new energiser springs in my spare 330 gearbox.... The newer "old" models are harder because the "older old" models were supported by dealers storing parts themselves, whereas later on, computer systems etc allowed rapid sending of parts from centralised storages, so the old dealer stashes weren't kept up so much, or so I was told for France.
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    Jense,
    That is the picture I needed, Thank You!!!

    The part numbers were superseded to the one on RobinT post, and they are used in many later model gearboxes.

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    Glad I could help Ray. So are they easy to come by? I have a 365 and a 395 sitting in the shed that could do with new seals.

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    I have just used generic seals and "O" rings without any problems, the sizes are there as well as the profile shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Yes, alas. Me too. Hence the new energiser springs in my spare 330 gearbox.... The newer "old" models are harder because the "older old" models were supported by dealers storing parts themselves, whereas later on, computer systems etc allowed rapid sending of parts from centralised storages, so the old dealer stashes weren't kept up so much, or so I was told for France.
    ok, I'll bite; who sells energiser springs for a 330?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    ok, I'll bite; who sells energiser springs for a 330?
    If only.... I found a set of NOS ones years ago, in a Renault box. Since then, the only ones I've ever seen available come from Jacques in USA. His were secondhand, although not too bad. I've asked in France and the answer seems to be that they aren't available and people use the best secondhand ones they can find. My 10S gearbox was overhauled in Adelaide by Jim Bush about 40 years ago, and he fitted new springs - it was the first time I'd even heard of such things to be honest. That box is still just fine but I've probably only driven 120,000 km since then, or a bit more maybe.

    I'd keep an eye out regularly and buy any you can find! If you can....

    They are only a bit of bent spring wire, but need the right size and specs I guess - you'd think 'we' could get a few dozen made relatively cheaply.

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    You would need a new one so the correct tension could be set. There are places that will make small springs so I guess they could then make new ones. But I think the correct tension would be very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    You would need a new one so the correct tension could be set. There are places that will make small springs so I guess they could then make new ones. But I think the correct tension would be very important.
    I was thinking that about new ones as models for size and tension, with a sinking feeling.... Knowing exactly how inaccessible my new springs are, that is!!
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    This is a Brisbane company but they can test springs and will do small runs. Are the springs in 365/95 the same as 330?

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