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    Default just bought a Renault 16TS...was that silly?

    Ok...I'm primarily a Citroen fan but in the past had a Renault 12 which was very reliable..
    30 odd years ago a woman across the road owned a 16TS and I have always fancied one
    finally I decided to buy one and after a couple of falso starts I bought a 1970 16TS
    I'd wanted the earlier version with low back seats etc and hopefully I've bought a good one
    Looks like it may be a Renault club members car...here hse is
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Renault-...vip=true&rt=nc

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    That looks like alistairs old one, ex northern beaches sydney.
    If it is, and my memory serves me correct, someone has taken a wallet hit and you got it it a realistic to cheap price!!
    Good luck.

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    this one was in Warrandyte in Vic but it may well have been alistairs?
    I certainly thought the price was great value..but then ...it seems all 16's are pretty cheap compared to other classics..
    what character for little money
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    No, you are not silly! At current prices a 16TS is one of life's bargains. That assumes that they are not badly rusted and/or mechanically past it. Mine is one of the few still on the road around Adelaide and in excellent condition in all respects, having been previously owned by one of the best Renault restorers in Australia. I am regularly accosted by people who recall owning one or having been driven in one in their heyday. They all have fond memories. I would like a couple of updates on mine - air/conditioning (my little car fan does make life bearable when stopped at the lights on a 40 degree day!) and power steering (really only needed when parking) You are lucky in not having the 'self-adjusting' handbrakes of the later models.

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    I don't think that's Alastair's old one.

    His was a lighter/brighter metallic colour; and the newer model - not the teardrop tail light model

    For sale: 1976 Renault 16TS - beaut condition
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    A great bargain, I think (if it all checks out).

    R16 is still on my to drive list but I expect it would be one of the great drives, I imagine sort of like the power of a 17TL (maybe with a little bit of an upgrade) and the comfort of an upmarket 12.

    Ah, and the price is really pocket change.
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    If it is proper no structural rust, with decent suspension bushes all round, the driveshafts are in good nick and the oil leak turns out to be a simple no-head-removal fix, it will be a good buy!
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    I'll tell my story again. In my 20's I was travelling in the south west of WA in a BMW 320i and came up behind an R16 in the twisty bits. The guy proceeded to leave me behind despite the body roll; the damn thing just hung on!

    Admittedly the BM was pretty shite on unfamiliar roads due to being tail happy, but I was pretty fearless then.

    It wouldn't have been so bad, but he proceeded to fill his pipe with tobacco while steering with his knees around the corners.
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    Wonderful cars. I often had a Citroen and a Renault 16TS simultaneously.

    In may ways, a seminal design (seats, etc).

    Great ride, lovely to operate. Not quite as good on the very final edges that the Citroen exhibited (eg, brakes, stability, etc).

    One of the great cars of their time.
    Highly under rated IMHO.

    Interested to hear your feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    A great bargain, I think (if it all checks out). R16 is still on my to drive list but I expect it would be one of the great drives, I imagine sort of like the power of a 17TL (maybe with a little bit of an upgrade) and the comfort of an upmarket 12. Ah, and the price is really pocket change.
    Every modern automotive engineer should drive a 16 or 16TS on a normal, rough-ish country road to find out how to do it. Most modern cars are rubbish in comparison. The Renault 16 was a truly remarkable vehicle - in SA in the day, they could outrun police Valiant V8s too, with 1565 cc in a four door family car. As tresbon2 said, they could do with AC (a later factory option) and power steering (not an option) and I reckon with both a 16 would make a perfect modern car. And you can fit a 44-gallon drum in the boot!
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    A 44 gallon drum. Can you really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    A 44 gallon drum. Can you really?
    Never tried a 44 gallon drum in my 16's but you probably could stand one up in the boot if you take the back seat out.
    I got a automatic washing machine in the back of mine and it would have been about the same size.
    The drum may have to be empty, lifting it up over the boot lip would be interesting with a full drum.
    And braking in a hurry with an unsecured 200 litre drum might be a bit of a concern.
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    I think John might be alluding to advertising at the time for the Leyland P76, that made a big thing about being able to fit a 44 Gallon drum in the boot and close it. Not sure how many of us actually needed to, but I guess it was an easy way of telling the public how much room there was, rather than saying the boot space is 500 or whatever litres.
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    The P76 boot lip is pretty tall too, so perhaps theirs was empty also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    The P76 boot lip is pretty tall too, so perhaps theirs was empty also.
    Hi we all know that the average farmer in the good ol' days could lift a '44 on to one shoulder and a couple of bags of 'super on th' other and carry them to the shed upstairs.
    That's advertising BS at its best. Renno never got the image right did they !!
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    I did it in mine. Horizontally. Empty I'd add..... And yes, it was an indirect poke at the P76 claim. Great boot, the 16 has.
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    Default Froggies....

    G'day,

    way back then....

    A mate of mine got an r16, off the showroom floor. Another got a 504. I was suitably impressed, and when my Triumph 2000 finally died, I got myself a preloved r12 wagon and I've had a tribe of froggies ever since....

    I must admit, that due to our house move to the sticks, I had a boyhood urge and got a v8 falcon 'ute - BA with 5 on the floor, a rare beast I'm told, that has served us itself rather well. Just like the customline I had in my teens, it will trundle around roundabouts in 4th, an auto with a manual clutch....

    Last year, the good wife, who has had a love affair with Toyota two-doors for decades, spotted a preloved Latitude in a Ballarat car yard. The last Toyota has gone....

    The r16 is a nice piece of gear.

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    I can't think of anybody that wasn't satisfied with his/her 16TS. I had 3 of them, a '69 and 2 '74s and they were all winners.
    During fuel restrictions in the late 70's our Slotcar club attended the SA Nationals in Cape Town, from Newcastle. 2 cars were needed to get us there, and my TS was the one to haul the trailer with the all the toolboxes and tent in it.
    Pumps closed at 18:00 on Friday and opened at 06:00 Monday during this restrictions period. Jock did a quick calculation and said to me that we had to average about 160kmh to get to the last filling station before 18:00. The TS was pushed to flatout and followed by the other car, Peugeot 504 TI, that soon fell behind. We made it with about 5 minutes to spare and the Peugeot arrived with about 3 minutes to spare sounding like a tractor and pushing some coolant out as well. The TS? It was still purring like a cat.
    Unbeatable car and John said it so well, engineers can use the TS as their goal.

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    I once carried a brickies wheelbarrow chock full of mud (mortar that is) in my R12 Wagon for about 5km...and removed it down a ramp at the other end to lay some bricks. Cornering was interesting.


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    Nothing beats a 12 for carrying capacity

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    When i was a teenager Dad carted a telescope from Canberra to Melbourne. Front Passenger seat folded down and back seat folded up. It lay diagonal across the car boot to dash.

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    I have had a 44 gallon drum in the boot of my old R12 sedan, but the boot would not close, still not bad for a car of its size.
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    Never quite managed a 44 gal. drum in my 4CV. Mind you, I have had a rather large Anglo-Nubian goat in the back seat area (seat removed) with head through the LHS sliding window. And yes, that was before the roll-hoop/half-cage was fitted there. I always get conversations when I use the 4CVG but that trip generated a somewhat different variation on them.

    Enjoy the R16TS; I have fond memories of fanging one of the first of them (John O'Connor's from Fraland Motors on South Road in Adelaide) around the Adelaide hills. John was a gentleman & I also played with his R4 & Holden grey-engined Fregate. As others have noted, TSs are surprisingly good around the bends (unless those bends are closely coupled left-right ones in the wet on Michelins - in which case considerable attention is enjoined). On a related note: what on Earth are the tyres on yours? (I don't recognise the pattern.)

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    Well, well, Fraland Motors. There's a name from the past......
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