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    Aren't the heater taps on the R16 the same as the R12?
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    Quote Originally Posted by REN TIN TIN View Post
    Aren't the heater taps on the R16 the same as the R12?
    testing the memory, but I reckon I replaced an r12 heater tap with a standard 'off the shelf' tap that was meant for old time falcons/holdens etc.

    Naturally, it was opposite way round hot/cold to the froggie version, fixable, but I lived with it....

    Might have been some re-plumbing with it as well ? One side had to have two connections ?

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    Not sure if it will fit as it does say for the phase 2 R12
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    Never quite managed a 44 gal. drum in my 4CV. Mind you, I have had a rather large Anglo-Nubian goat in the back seat area (seat removed) with head through the LHS sliding window. And yes, that was before the roll-hoop/half-cage was fitted there. I always get conversations when I use the 4CVG but that trip generated a somewhat different variation on them.

    Enjoy the R16TS; I have fond memories of fanging one of the first of them (John O'Connor's from Fraland Motors on South Road in Adelaide) around the Adelaide hills. John was a gentleman & I also played with his R4 & Holden grey-engined Fregate. As others have noted, TSs are surprisingly good around the bends (unless those bends are closely coupled left-right ones in the wet on Michelins - in which case considerable attention is enjoined). On a related note: what on Earth are the tyres on yours? (I don't recognise the pattern.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    Having a closer look, I hypothesise that they are BFG Drive T/A tyres. If so, I'd be interested in due course on your impressions of them in the wet.
    yes..the advantage drive T/A
    in the dry they feel very good...should I be scared of wet weather grip on them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    What is that woolly structure under the dash centre?
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    Quote Originally Posted by REN TIN TIN View Post
    Aren't the heater taps on the R16 the same as the R12?
    They are a similar design but have different part numbers, I would be doing what Sunroof suggested in his post (#65)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    Heater valves can some times just need pulling apart, replacing the O ring and general cleaning.
    well...I don't believe it but the heater dial now turns ok so I now have a heater...next the oil leak,then fix the tacho
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    turns out this car was last serviced in 2005 at citro motors and the car is still 2,000 miles short of being due
    lol....seems like the owner died and his car has sat in a garage for 11 years
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    Wouldn't the door key fit the glovebox? The diamond one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Wouldn't the door key fit the glovebox? The diamond one?
    Correct. There should be two keys, the ignition key, and the door key, which also works the bonnet lock, rear hatch and glovebox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Wouldn't the door key fit the glovebox? The diamond one?
    only given an ignition key,no previous reg papers,history,nothing
    I need someone in the Renault club who knew the car/owner or mel carey who serviced the car
    at citro motors fitzroy
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    yes..the advantage drive T/A
    in the dry they feel very good...should I be scared of wet weather grip on them?
    I recollect some scary moments with the R16 in the wet.
    Can't recollect which tyres, but exercise caution ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    only given an ignition key,
    How do you unlock the car, DogBoy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    only given an ignition key,no previous reg papers,history,nothing
    I need someone in the Renault club who knew the car/owner or mel carey who serviced the car
    at citro motors fitzroy
    The books are probably in the glovebox :-)

    The previous owner would likely know the status/location of the previous previous owner too, as well as the location of the keys.

    Anyway, if the front door trims are loose, they can be removed which allows access to the door lock tumbler, remove the clip, pull the barrel through the hole, pop the circlip and take the lock tumbler to an old-school locksmith who may have the key blanks. They should be able to cut another set of door keys. If the door trims and nice, tight and untouched, the rear hatch latch can also be removed, a pin knocked out of the plunger button, which then releases the hatch latch lock tumbler.

    Another thought, visit French Connection, they may have a number of sets of keys without cars that may fit. Also the key code is punched onto the side of the lock tumbler in a lot of cases, so could be matched with loose keys without a car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garyk View Post
    I recollect some scary moments with the R16 in the wet.
    Can't recollect which tyres, but exercise caution ....
    I can, both the scary moments and the tyres:-Michelin XAS... even worse were the originally fitted Dunlop Aquajets, or as we called them; Aquaplanes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    only given an ignition key,no previous reg papers,history,nothing
    I need someone in the Renault club who knew the car/owner or mel carey who serviced the car
    at citro motors fitzroy
    Sounds like you need a locksmith. Simon's idea of chasing some keys from David is a very good one - there might not be all that many different ones. Some of the owners active here might have a few too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neural revolt View Post
    I can, both the scary moments and the tyres:-Michelin XAS... even worse were the originally fitted Dunlop Aquajets, or as we called them; Aquaplanes.
    At least the Michelins were round..... They broke away pretty suddenly as I recall it. And the Aquaplanes wore out going round the block a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    At least the Michelins were round..... They broke away pretty suddenly as I recall it. And the Aquaplanes wore out going round the block a few times.
    Even after 46 years odd, I can still recall vividly, swapping ends multiple times and finally coming to rest on the grass nature strip in St Georges Rd Toorak , courtesy of very bald Michelin X and R10 swing axles.

    Granted it was wet, and I was driving far too fast. And after the first spin, I realized I was there for the ride.
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    Wet, bald Michelin X tyres, fast, on smooth bitumen.... You could have spun it in slow motion I reckon!!
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    I put Aquajets on my Cooper S after I got a yellow sticker for having too wide tyres. I remember the terrible tread flex around corners and the resultant howl.

    Once in streaming wet weather Sat morning I was going down Vic Ave in Perth onto Riverside drive (a T junction for non Perth people) and the lights changed to amber with 20m to go. Being young and wanting to impress my mate, I did the scando flick in out in, hand brake on the last 'in' hard right, sideways into the intersection turning right, back into second after two frantic tries and then planted it. The car sat there with the front wheels spinning and steam everywhere, oh so slowly picking up traction! I eventually left the intersection and I bet it looked impressive, but the Aquajet name certainly is a misnomer...I think I had about 75bhp...


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    I put Aquajets on my Cooper S after I got a yellow sticker for having too wide tyres. I remember the terrible tread flex around corners and the resultant howl.

    Once in streaming wet weather Sat morning I was going down Vic Ave in Perth onto Riverside drive (a T junction for non Perth people) and the lights changed to amber with 20m to go. Being young and wanting to impress my mate, I did the scando flick in out in, hand brake on the last 'in' hard right, sideways into the intersection turning right, back into second after two frantic tries and then planted it. The car sat there with the front wheels spinning and steam everywhere, oh so slowly picking up traction! I eventually left the intersection and I bet it looked impressive, but the Aquajet name certainly is a misnomer...I think I had about 75bhp...

    Here's a pic of the S on Aquajets in fact! Post 14. Not that you can really see them.

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    My (then) partner rolled a 16TS on the way from Canberra to Sydney.
    Pretty sure it was wet.

    As much as I loved the 16s, that last percentage lack of performance is quite scary when they let go, and a reason that I continued with Citroens...(in which I have never been in that situation) ....although I did have a GS that slid into the curb one wet night. Possibly a dodgy tire.

    Perhaps better tyres on the 16TS will remedy this, but they can be touchy at limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Oil's a bit dirty.... Leaks are good like that - draw your attention to things.

    Sounds as if that heater valve hasn't been turned for aeons - good luck in finding one that works - Sarosa to the rescue perhaps!!

    Sounds like you've acquired a pretty useable and tidy 16. Great that the overheating was just bleeding. I'd ponder why it had been drained mind you. Regardless, do enjoy it!

    Cheers
    it wasn't just bleeding..the hose from the overflow bottle to the radiator had split so pressure wouldn't hold
    I had to replace the hose forst...and then a bleed as split hose had let lots of air in...
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