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    Default The Classic Alpine Tour - Queenstown NZ

    Frans and I are off on a little adventure in my R8.

    The event is called "The Classic Alpine Tour" (Alpine referring to the destination rather than the car maker) and its going to be held in late March and it consists of 3 days of touring around central Otago, a car show and a social gathering.

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    Its restricted to vehicles pre 1975 and over 40 cars have entered including Alfa, Bentley, Bristol, Ferrari, Lancia, Porsche, Morgan, Alvis, Maserati, MG, Fiat, Jaguar, Mercedes, Healey, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Lotus, Saab, Volvo and of course my Renault. I have a feeling we are going to be the poor cousins.

    But that's only half the fun. To get to the event we will be driving over 1500 kms to get there from Auckland to Queenstown. So all up the round trip including the tour will be approximately 3,500 kms.

    So the bets are on, will the R8 make it? To be honest the only reason I am taking Frans is so he can keep the old girl going, but don't tell him that.

    I have started a list of work needing doing before we set off and I will keep you posted on progress. Nothing major, bit of a tidy up and a full service of course plus a couple of other little jobs.

    Should be fun.
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    Sounds like a great event. Have fun and keep safe. Keep us, who wish we were there, updated please.

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    Ross, Frans,

    There's room at my place for an en-route stop-over, if you're going via Christchurch (which is most likely).

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    Sounds a great trip. My three trans-Oz trips, totalling something over 20,000 km come to think of it, in the R8 have needed the following spare parts:

    1. Bulb for interior light
    2. One set of clean spark plugs (forgot to check the old ones before we left)
    3. 50 mm of soft wire to repair a windscreen wiper blade.
    4. Three new tubes to replace ridiculously old ones.
    5. One rear shock absorber upper rubber washer.

    Now I've CARRIED much more, including a built up distributor, water pump and housing, fuel pump, carbie kit, hoses, alternator belt, thermostat, assorted nuts and bolts, gaskets, wires, fuses, bulbs etc and tyre levers with rubber mallet. And tools of course.

    The only other thing is that I've cruised at about 3,800 rpm, sitting on the sweet spot, at least the sweet spot for mine. It has a standard 1100 motor with a 10S head and the original 32 PDIST Solex.

    Wheel bearings were checked, and I fitted grease nipples to the front suspension ball joints as they can dry out and bind.

    Is yours an R1134 or does it just have big headlamps?

    Have a great trip. We all look forward to news and photographs....
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    Thanks Henry for the offer of a bed, I will let you know.

    John - our 3,500 kms sounds small compared to what you have done, thanks for the advice. And its just a standard R8 with 7" concave Cibies fitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    Thanks Henry for the offer of a bed, I will let you know.

    John - our 3,500 kms sounds small compared to what you have done, thanks for the advice. And its just a standard R8 with 7" concave Cibies fitted.
    From Perth, I have no choice if I go to a Renault event interstate!!

    These cars are very reliable if serviced properly. Our experience over here is that the main 1100 engine problems are upper piston/piston ring failures after 150,000 km (apart from corrosion if coolant has not been used correctly). This is partly why I keep cruising revs below 4000 for long trips. You often see old heads with lots of square dents....

    Geckoeng will agree that old brake hoses are bad news too, even if they look OK on the outside.
    I'd check the front wheel bearings though - they are not very big. I always have spares, so of course never need them!

    Have a great trip.
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    Default Keeping it Cool

    The R8 has been in storage for the last 2 or 3 months. So once we got it out of the shed and started up the first thing Frans says is "there's a rumbling bearing somewhere". He might be old, half crippled and nearly blind but his hearing is pretty good.

    Anyway once we got it home and on the hoist we took off the fan belt and spun the alternator, no problems there, then spun the fan and he was right, water pump was making a very unhappy noise. Luckily I had a brand new water pump on the self so in it went.

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    We also noticed the bottom hose was rubbing on the alternator bracket so once we had removed the radiator it was obvious this hose was not going to last the trip.

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    So into the spares again and found a decent 2nd hand hose. I also shortened up the alternator bracket so it shouldn't happen again.

    While the radiator was out gave everything a good flush, radiator, engine and cleaned the bottle.

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    Hopefully we won't have any overheating issues on the trip now, well from the engine anyway.
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    I like all that! Well done both. And now you won't need to put the spare water pump in the boot....

    I've just had a similar issue with a radiator hose and a non-standard alternator on the Citroen CX and, like you, was lucky enough to notice it before it failed.

    Have a great trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    The R8 has been in storage for the last 2 or 3 months. So once we got it out of the shed and started up the first thing Frans says is "there's a rumbling bearing somewhere". He might be old, half crippled and nearly blind but his hearing is pretty good.
    About the age, nothing I can do about it. Half crippled, I've got that wonderful purple tablets I'm taking for it. Nearly blind, that's why I wear a torch like a pocket knife. All sorted but you. I would expect to see some hearing aids before we go!!

    And don't forget to tell the guys about the tow rope that is going with, sure as hell we will need that to tow a Jag or a Lotus to the nearest garage.
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    Default Gauges

    And just to make sure everything is keeping cool just as it should, a new temp gauge.

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    And while we were mucking around with gauges the fuel gauge has been playing up a bit lately. Frans assured me there was a removable cover under the parcel tray to get to the sender unit. Sure enough after a bit of digging I found it.

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    After a bit of cleaning, lubing and taking some play out of the main pivot it seemed to be working better.

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    So thats all for the gauges. The speedo over reads but Ive got used to that and it always gives me a buzz every time the needle goes off the end of the gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    About the age, nothing I can do about it. Half crippled, I've got that wonderful purple tablets I'm taking for it. Nearly blind, that's why I wear a torch like a pocket knife. All sorted but you. I would expect to see some hearing aids before we go!! And don't forget to tell the guys about the tow rope that is going with, sure as hell we will need that to tow a Jag or a Lotus to the nearest garage.
    Here's our R8 about to tow a Toyota out of a flooded creek in 1974 - we drove around it in the deeper water! Completely right to take a tow rope, to help others less fortunate.....

    Except in really hot weather, ours sits around 80 degrees, the sender unit being in the top radiator hose.
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    Bon voyage. Down through National Park and the Parapara's I hope?

    Drop me an email if you're stopping in Wellington (well, you'll get very wet if you don't....).

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    I think I could be getting a little carried away in preparation for this trip. Please dont tell my co-driver.

    I actually blame JohnW for all this, his advice to check the front wheel bearings, which was good advice meant one thing lead to another and then the whole front suspension was out of the car!

    This allowed me to put new bushes in the lower arms, I had some new Meca Parts hard bushes on the shelf, and new adjustable tie rods also on the shelf.

    So bare metaled everything and on with a coat of etch prime.

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    Then on with a coat of 2K black (silver for the shocks and springs)

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    Then press in the new bushes

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    I also took the opportunity to freshen up the calipers and I will put in new pads up front

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    Now the pressure is on to get it all back together, only 2.5 weeks before blast off.
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    great job ross,you will notice the difference in the front suspension,those meca bushes are good .still supple and combined with the deletion of the rack end bushes in the new type tie rod ends,it sharpens the steering up nicely.

    make sure your co-driver is ready when turning in to corners as he may not be used to fast driving.
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    Carried away?? Wow.

    How were the front wheel bearings?

    Nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    I think I could be getting a little carried away in preparation for this trip. Please dont tell my co-driver.


    So bare metaled everything and on with a coat of etch prime.
    So....Why didn't you send everything in for plating? Now we have to sit with an amateur-ish aerosol paint job. And don't think mentioning ETCH Primer makes it any more valuable.

    Frans.
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    Good job Ross!! You'll have to clean the rear end as well so that when the Bentley owner hook the tow rope on, he can be impressed as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    So....Why didn't you send everything in for plating? Now we have to sit with an amateur-ish aerosol paint job. And don't think mentioning ETCH Primer makes it any more valuable.

    Frans.
    Hey, my name is not Ed China. No aerosols were used on this job.
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    Default Don't Panic

    Only 10 days to go before kick off.

    Front suspension is all in now.

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    Frans came around last night with his bits of fishing line and bent jubilee clamps and did a wheel alignment.

    So I can now drive it again. Yey!!
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    I'm definitely feeling like the poor cousin in this event. I have just received the entry list and the quality of the cars entered is quite amazing.

    1967 Bristol 410
    1961 Morgan +4
    1974 Jaguar V12 Etype Conv
    1965 Renault R8
    1987 Porsche 911 SC
    1969 Mercedes 280SL
    1924 Bentley 3L Red Label Speed
    1926 Bugatti Type 35B Brand Prix
    1972 Morgan 4/4
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    1967 Volvo P1800
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    1969 Alfa Duetto "Bobtail"
    1976 Porsche 930 Turbo
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    1971 Ferrari Daytona
    1968 Lamborghini Miura 400
    1957 Porsche 356 Speedster
    1964 Alfa 2600 Convertible
    1974 Alfa Romeo Montreal
    1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600 Zagato
    1967 Ferrari 275 GTB 4 Cam
    1957 Mercedes 300SL Roadster
    1971 Dino Ferrari 246GT
    1966 Ferrari 330 GTC
    1964 Maserati 3500 GTI
    1966 Porsche 911 S
    1978 Ferrari 512 BB
    1966 Jaguar Etype Series 1
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    1958 Porsche 356 Speedster
    1969 Mercedes 280SL
    1978 Lancia Beta Montecarlo
    1962 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
    1952 Alvis TA21 Drophead
    1974 Fiat Dino 2400 Coupe
    1960 Austin Healy
    1954 MG TF
    ???? Countess Lamborgini Countach
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    1973 Lotus Esprit S1
    1969 MGC GT

    Oh well being the only 4 door car in the event maybe we could be the "French Taxi"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    I'm definitely feeling like the poor cousin in this event. I have just received the entry list and the quality of the cars entered is quite amazing.

    1967 Bristol 410
    1961 Morgan +4
    1974 Jaguar V12 Etype Conv
    1965 Renault R8
    1987 Porsche 911 SC
    1969 Mercedes 280SL
    1924 Bentley 3L Red Label Speed
    1926 Bugatti Type 35B Brand Prix
    1972 Morgan 4/4
    ???? Porsche 911 "Singer"
    1967 Volvo P1800
    1974 Ferrari 365GT4BB
    1969 Alfa Duetto "Bobtail"
    1976 Porsche 930 Turbo
    1968 Jaguar Etype Roadster
    1971 Ferrari Daytona
    1968 Lamborghini Miura 400
    1957 Porsche 356 Speedster
    1964 Alfa 2600 Convertible
    1974 Alfa Romeo Montreal
    1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600 Zagato
    1967 Ferrari 275 GTB 4 Cam
    1957 Mercedes 300SL Roadster
    1971 Dino Ferrari 246GT
    1966 Ferrari 330 GTC
    1964 Maserati 3500 GTI
    1966 Porsche 911 S
    1978 Ferrari 512 BB
    1966 Jaguar Etype Series 1
    1955 Lancia Aurelia B20 Series IV
    1958 Porsche 356 Speedster
    1969 Mercedes 280SL
    1978 Lancia Beta Montecarlo
    1962 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
    1952 Alvis TA21 Drophead
    1974 Fiat Dino 2400 Coupe
    1960 Austin Healy
    1954 MG TF
    ???? Countess Lamborgini Countach
    ???? Porsche 718 RSK
    1973 Lotus Esprit S1
    1969 MGC GT

    Oh well being the only 4 door car in the event maybe we could be the "French Taxi"
    There is a nice variety of cars.
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    Not bloody wrong. What a fleet!

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    Most of them are pretty common beside an R8, which is a real rarity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    I'm definitely feeling like the poor cousin in this event.
    I can see a Renault top 10 finish at worst from that listing!
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    Default Swishing the old girl up a bit!

    It all started with that R8 for sale on Bring-a-Trailer a couple of months ago, I presume you all saw it.

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    All my friends started asking me why my R8 didn't have yellow spot lights.

    So rather than disappoint I quickly jumped on trademe and found a couple of Bosch units for $90. Now they are a little large at 7" (I would have preferred 6.25") however in the short time frame I had I think they look OK.

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    I have also installed a 12v power supply to keep our phones charged up on tour.

    Getting close.
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