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    Default I have not had my pills so now i want another R19!!

    Yes madness, I need a cheap, spacious car with a nice boot, so now all I need to find is a manual R19 hatch. It might be the most boring French car ever made but geez could it carry a load in the back. If anyone knows of a good/interesting one I would be happy to find out.

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    Is it boring because they have good handling with comfort, reasonable fuel consumption and an engine you can't kill?
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    No, you don't need pills to like the R19. They were a much under-rated car. I loved mine. (And still miss it occasionally .... oops, where's that pill packet again ........ )
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    My father in law has two manual r19 sedans , I could find out a price tomorrow


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    Just take your bloody pills...
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    I drove an R19 for a short while and I was impressed. I have seen stock standard one easily pass my R17TS down the straight at Lake Side Race Track. Yes I know the 19 has a bigger engine and is a younger car but they can get up and boogie if asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    I drove an R19 for a short while and I was impressed. I have seen stock standard one easily pass my R17TS down the straight at Lake Side Race Track. Yes I know the 19 has a bigger engine and is a younger car but they can get up and boogie if asked.
    Especially the PH 3 with the slightly larger 1794cc eng. compaired to the earlier 1721cc models.
    The PH 3 is the one to go for but not as many about. A lot more torque lower down as well as a much more user friendly air cleaner assembly.
    A great little hatch once sorted out !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain View Post
    Especially the PH 3 with the slightly larger 1794cc eng. compaired to the earlier 1721cc models. The PH 3 is the one to go for but not as many about. A lot more torque lower down as well as a much more user friendly air cleaner assembly. A great little hatch once sorted out !
    Ah yes, that eould be the go, we had neat phase 2 from 1993, and once it was sorted was very capable and reliable. Another late one would good and one in blue,or that great grey would be ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    I drove an R19 for a short while and I was impressed. I have seen stock standard one easily pass my R17TS down the straight at Lake Side Race Track. Yes I know the 19 has a bigger engine and is a younger car but they can get up and boogie if asked.
    Sounds like a sick 17TS. It just didn't sound right, especially given I wasn't impressed by the 19 when new (relative to my old 12), and was impressed by a 17TS :-)

    So I've just quickly dug out some figures from past tests:

    Renault 19, Wheels 8/1993
    0-100km/h - 14.3 seconds
    0-120km/h - 24.3 seconds
    400m standing start 19.3 seconds

    Renault 12GL, Modern Motor 6/1975
    0-100km/h - 14.5 seconds
    0-120km/h - 24.4 seconds
    400m standing start 19.8 seconds

    Renault 17TS, Motor Manual 11/1974
    0-100km/h - 11.5 seconds
    0-120km/h - 15.1 seconds
    400m standing start 17.8 seconds
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    May be I didn't corner as fast around the bend before the straight. At the point on the track where the 19 was passing I would be changing into 5th at about 140 kph. On standard mid priced road tyres I was not prepared to hit the kink in the straight at faster than 150/160 perhaps the 19 driver was. I find it surprising that the 12 was as fast as the R19. I will ask whether the 19 was standard as the owner is known for keeping his motor looking standard but doing internal work to them. But I didn't think so in his 19. Yes that particular 17 motor was a bit tired I have put the rebuilt original motor back in but don't go to the track now I am too old. Having said that there are those in the club that are older and still faster than I ever was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    May be I didn't corner as fast around the bend before the straight. At the point on the track where the 19 was passing I would be changing into 5th at about 140 kph. On standard mid priced road tyres I was not prepared to hit the kink in the straight at faster than 150/160 perhaps the 19 driver was. I find it surprising that the 12 was as fast as the R19. I will ask whether the 19 was standard as the owner is known for keeping his motor looking standard but doing internal work to them. But I didn't think so in his 19. Yes that particular 17 motor was a bit tired I have put the rebuilt original motor back in but don't go to the track now I am too old. Having said that there are those in the club that are older and still faster than I ever was.
    As the then owner of that R19, I'd like to clear a few things up:
    Firstly, it was a 1995 1.8 manual in standard condition. I hadn't 'finessed it' in any way. It was going as well as a 1.8 R19 should, no better and no worse.
    Secondly, the quoted road test figures are for a 1.7, not a 1.8.
    Thirdly, a R19 is very drivable. You can use 100% of what is available.,
    Fourthly, it was every bit as quick as most 2 litre cars of today. I replaced the R19 with a Megane 2 sedan, 2 litre manual. My assessment is that the R19 was a bit quicker low down but the Megane sedan has an advantage at higher speeds.
    Fifthly, I had a 1.7 R19 before I had the 1.8. It was quick enough to embarrass many phony performance cars such as the smaller engine BMWs
    Sixthly, R19s atr great cars - go for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisonati View Post
    As the then owner of that R19, I'd like to clear a few things up:
    Firstly, it was a 1995 1.8 manual in standard condition. I hadn't 'finessed it' in any way. It was going as well as a 1.8 R19 should, no better and no worse.
    Secondly, the quoted road test figures are for a 1.7, not a 1.8.
    Thirdly, a R19 is very drivable. You can use 100% of what is available.,
    Fourthly, it was every bit as quick as most 2 litre cars of today. I replaced the R19 with a Megane 2 sedan, 2 litre manual. My assessment is that the R19 was a bit quicker low down but the Megane sedan has an advantage at higher speeds.
    Fifthly, I had a 1.7 R19 before I had the 1.8. It was quick enough to embarrass many phony performance cars such as the smaller engine BMWs
    Sixthly, R19s atr great cars - go for it!
    I concur, the R19 PH 2 and PH 3 are chalk and cheese having owned both in hatch manual form.

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    I had one till the NRMA killed it clutch starting it in reverse, though thatís a different story. Loved it, took it everywhere. My heater blower died though an auto electrician fixed it for about $60 4 years ago. Iíd have another one anyway if I could find one with aircon which had the new gas. My diesel Megane is my fave car and the 19 is my second fave car. It had a tonne of boot space with the seats down, I put over 1.5 t of firewood in one day and it still pulled away smoothly.


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