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    Default oil filter number for 688-02 engine

    Froggers,
    Will a Ryco Z71 fit a 688-02?

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    That sounds familiar but people have been wary of Ryco filters.
    I used to use Purflux LS144B which were OEM I believe but seem to be NLA.

    Most recently I used Mann W914/2
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    I have used Ryco filters without any problems, but like Kevin says some people on here have had a different experience.

    Heres a link to their web site Search Application | Air Filters, Oil Filters and Fuel Filters | Ryco Filters | Automotive Filters Australia
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    Agree with Renault8&10 and Col. I used a Z71 for years, on my current engine, converted to Purflux - a few sizes fit - because of concerns regarding Ryco, size, and convenience of the excellent Purflux filter wrench.

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    I have used Ryco Z71 on my 17's, 15 etc with no trouble but I have one now on my R10 and it takes a while for oil pressure to build up and the big ends rattle for a bit. I think the Ryco filter may not have a valve to hold them full of oil. Think I prefer Purflux for Sierra motors I understand they have a valve, but may be wrong about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    I have used Ryco Z71 on my 17's, 15 etc with no trouble but I have one now on my R10 and it takes a while for oil pressure to build up and the big ends rattle for a bit. I think the Ryco filter may not have a valve to hold them full of oil. Think I prefer Purflux for Sierra motors I understand they have a valve, but may be wrong about this.
    Want me to post you a Purflux? I have a few..... I quote "big ends rattle for a bit"... Eek. I heard the same story about lack of a valve, which was when I dropped them.

    I bought some Purflux filters recently, and half the batch that arrived were also Mann!!

    Years ago, the near new Holden station wagons ALL rattled on startup in the SA Mines Department fleet. They'd have used locally made filters, quite likely Ryco I imagine. What oil pressure do you have hot?
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    It is a rebuilt engine may be done a couple of 1000 k's. I definately don't give any welly until it turns out the light. I should chase up some Purflux filters I guess. Haven't checked oil pressure may be I should. The motor has to come back out as the rear engine seal is leaking as is the new water pump!! It was rebuilt quite a few years ago and sat without being used for all that time.

    As I have said on here before, I bought a 10S cheap because it had a big end rattle on start up. But it had a Z9? Ryco off a Falcon on it and it took the oil pump quite a while to fill the filter so the motor rattled away. Took the car home and fitted a Purflux and there was no rattle. Lasted quite a few years too. I didn't feel guilty either as it was from a known dodgy car dealer.
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    I checked the purflux catalogue and it appears the LS144B has been superseded by a different model.
    Might have to try the chase up a supplier of the new number. You can still buy some LS144B from Europe on eBay.
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    I thought French Connection was able to supply these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    It is a rebuilt engine may be done a couple of 1000 k's. I definately don't give any welly until it turns out the light. I should chase up some Purflux filters I guess. Haven't checked oil pressure may be I should. The motor has to come back out as the rear engine seal is leaking as is the new water pump!! It was rebuilt quite a few years ago and sat without being used for all that time.

    As I have said on here before, I bought a 10S cheap because it had a big end rattle on start up. But it had a Z9? Ryco off a Falcon on it and it took the oil pump quite a while to fill the filter so the motor rattled away. Took the car home and fitted a Purflux and there was no rattle. Lasted quite a few years too. I didn't feel guilty either as it was from a known dodgy car dealer.
    Great story! That water pump might seal with a bit of running? Bugger though about the main seal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    I checked the purflux catalogue and it appears the LS144B has been superseded by a different model.
    Might have to try the chase up a supplier of the new number. You can still buy some LS144B from Europe on eBay.
    If it has the 3/4" thread and the rubber seal has the right diameter to seal properly on the base, does it matter much what Purflux filter you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    I checked the purflux catalogue and it appears the LS144B has been superseded by a different model.
    Might have to try the chase up a supplier of the new number. You can still buy some LS144B from Europe on eBay.
    Were you to have the new # falling readily to hand then if imagine it would count as a welcome service to fellow froggers were you to post it.

    cheers! Peter

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    The alternative number is in the on-line Purflux catalogue.

    Another alternative is 77 00 725 923, a 3/4" to 20mm adaptor, used by Renault on blocks in their transition from the 3/4" to 20mm filters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    Were you to have the new # falling readily to hand then if imagine it would count as a welcome service to fellow froggers were you to post it.

    cheers! Peter
    I didn’t post it cause I didn’t have it. I had a quick look but then friends arrived for a visit so I had desist. But it is in the online catalog on the purflux site as Simon mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    The alternative number is in the on-line Purflux catalogue. Another alternative is 77 00 725 923, a 3/4" to 20mm adaptor, used by Renault on blocks in their transition from the 3/4" to 20mm filters.
    Well, I didn't know that and have never seen one. Thanks Simon. Which cars used that transition arrangement, do you know?

    Checking the Purflux catalogue, LS114B has been replaced by LS285 on 28/12/2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Which cars used that transition arrangement, do you know?
    Hard to say, it would be luck of the draw as to which car used which block around that period. I just bought mine as a new part, as a just-in-case.
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    The Ryco Z71 appears not to have an anti drawback valve. Unable to find exact spec so relied on pictures

    See pic, half round slots are around periphery of valve base. No rubber valve here
    oil filter number for 688-02 engine-z71.jpg


    A Renault 10 C111Y has a series of holes around base with rubber valve behind these
    oil filter number for 688-02 engine-c111y.jpg

    Suggest everyone ditch your Ryco Z71 and save your engine bearings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Hard to say, it would be luck of the draw as to which car used which block around that period. I just bought mine as a new part, as a just-in-case.
    Good idea too! We never knew what would become unavailable. I'd have done the same if I had known.

    I've double checked, and I'm using an LS169B, which is 6 mm shorter than the LS144B. The Mann equivalent is W77. So the filter area would be within 10% of the 'correct' size. I haven't had a problem and don't expect one.

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    Thanks to all for info. cheers! Peter

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    Cheers lads. looks like I'm sending my Z71 back to Repco

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    I will hold myself back and not say anything bad about Ryco oil filters.
    Just cut one and a Purflux open for comparison.
    You do not have to be an engineering genius to figure out the differences
    in filter material surface area and quality or lack thereof, let alone valving
    and general attention to detail.
    Enough said?
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    There are different Ryco filters for for different applications.
    Need to compare Apples with Apples.
    The Ryco Z71 does not have anti drainback valve. This is what I used on my old Range Rover.
    The filter was mounted close enough to vertical. You had to fill it with oil before fitting.
    The Ryco Z9 does have a drainback valve. See Pic of base, very different to a Z71
    oil filter number for 688-02 engine-z9.jpg

    I am not associated with Ryco in anyway, but did a lot of work in filtering for large scale industrial engines

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