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    After a 3 year absence I am trying to join Frans in this season's fun and games.
    At the end of the 2014 season my race engine-here sugested new valves and springs. So the head got a set of new bigger vales and new valve springs and valve guides to stop the smoking habit. The old motor, as last raced in 2014 is put back into service

    While Frans used his ingenuity for a bias brake adjuster I went the "easy" way and bought a set of Wilwood pedals. It is still debatable which pedal box is the easiest to install, hanging or floor mount. Well I went for the hanging arrangement, cannot remember why. Got it in and working, the brakes it is. The clutch, well that is a different story as we went from a cable to a hydraulic setup.
    I got a pull slave cylinder from another good mate, cut the clutch rod just before the cable start and cut thread on it. Now I could join the cable to the slave. The only way I could get the clutch to release was to adjust the trust bearing hard up on the pressure plate. There is a race to run dammit! (last race 2014) We will sort the cooked bearing later.

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    LATER: Found these two mounting points on the side of the gearbox,as luck will have it on the correct side of the box. Drilled and taped them then made a mechanical link to increase the stroke of the slave, On the photo the slave cylinder rod end is close to the cable mount. Had to adjust it to the 3rd hole to get a working clutch, a tad hard but it works with play on the fork.

    Also a photo of Reno in sickbay.
    While I was away they changed the rules and I don't think my old homemade fuel tank would make the grade, the new improved version keeps the brake tower company. Enough for now I'll bore you with the rest later.


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    All good news, Johan. What engine are you using?
    The more rear engined Renaults on track, the better.

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    Good on you starting this new thread. Remember the saying I told you "a peacock sitting on its tail is just a turkey" Tell them all about it. There is a good video of our last race together with the 2 Gs running side by side for a good 4 or 5 laps. I remember Peter Ball mentioning it to me that the commentators' comments were so good about the 2 Renaults, he had to leave whatever he was doing to go and have a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Good on you starting this new thread. Remember the saying I told you "a peacock sitting on its tail is just a turkey" Tell them all about it. There is a good video of our last race together with the 2 Gs running side by side for a good 4 or 5 laps. I remember Peter Ball mentioning it to me that the commentators' comments were so good about the 2 Renaults, he had to leave whatever he was doing to go and have a look. Regards, Frans.
    Wonderful! And here I am crowing about just fitting braided brake hoses to a standard system. Of course it is just for standard use.....

    A trip to NZ is long overdue!

    Thanks for this fascinating material.
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    And on this subject, how do you get those front end hose clips 100% back in place? I haven't found a way yet. My photo shows they are in tightly, but not fully home.
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    Hi John,

    I use a pair of gas pliers opened enough to use the fitting as abase and the top jaw on the top of the clip. Then the gas pliers makes you feel real strong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans View Post
    Hi John,

    I use a pair of gas pliers opened enough to use the fitting as abase and the top jaw on the top of the clip. Then the gas pliers makes you feel real strong!

    Regards, Frans
    Thanks for that Frans. I'd love a photo please - I was thinking of some sort of arrangement with pliers but couldn't quite get my mind around what they'd look like - none of mine are quite the right shape.

    The photo is my "adjusted" square shank screwdriver to tap out the clips and with a groove (Dremel) to lever the front ones back half-way. Works really well.

    Whoops, didn't mean to highjack the thread! But I hope it is closely enough related not to cause offence.
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    Hi John,
    If I remember correctly I did put a big Phillips screw driver through the hole, something against the bolt on the suspension and the levered it home.
    This was long ago and included some French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan View Post
    Hi John,
    If I remember correctly I did put a big Phillips screw driver through the hole, something against the bolt on the suspension and the levered it home.
    This was long ago and included some French. Johan
    Thanks Johan. Yes, the language comes with the job. Doing it infrequently is half the problem, but the big screwdriver is the go, that is for sure. A groove on the screwdriver shank helps, then the clip can't slide and bend out of parallel with the direction you are trying to push it.
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    Sunday (26/12/17) on the "Club" circuit went, maybe better than I thought. My biggest fear-oil-surge did not happen even with an almost constant right turn. The previous mentioned broken accelerator link is now repaired and hopefully more ruggered.
    All this was made easier with my new improved "dollies" (is this the right word). One set of castors go on each side, this enable me to craw and work under the car with ease. A plus point is that I don't have to bend this old back to adjust tappets etc.
    I also spent some money and bought a accusump. If you lost as many crankshafts as I have, you would be neurotic too.
    Some thing that bothers me is the amount of oversteer I got, felt like a novice drifter. On Sunday (6/12/17) we will be back on familiar territory and then we should be able to make a better comparison.


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    That's great Johan. I never knew you had a G motor, always thought you ran an R12 motor in your R8.
    It' good to see 2 R8Gs on track, probably the only time and place this has ever happened in N.Z. Good luck.

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    Nice Wheels! Are they home made?

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    I found a guy in Auckland who make wheels for oval track bump cars and gave him a sample with the outer rims. he made the center pieces (thinner than the oval track cars). They are VERY heavy and if I continue to race I must get some mags.
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    Sunday 10 Dec 17 Some how both chains that stop rear axles from drooping lost their nuts and were acting like antistatic chains.This was (I think) in the 1st handicap race, I did not feel much but thinking back I believe the car was a bit more "loose". Peter, a Reno fan did remark that my car lifted and downed its arse more than Frans. After the chains were fastened I did put my fastest time in the last race,not by much though. That means I am constantly slow.
    Oversteer is gone so it must have been the track.
    I am a believer. The Accusump was amazing never leave home without it.



    Start of the first handicap race. I share the 2nd row with Mk1 (2L Cosworth) and a MGB V8 (as per entry list) Pink Pug is a lady driver and no it is not a Mazda it is a Ford Telstar. This is the European Racing Classics remember.



    So the Cortina came past but I thought- lets harass him a bit and almost out braked him but he cut me off and hit the brakes harder than necessary, so I almost ran up his bum and while locking up obviously spun out.



    Then I met these kind Gentlemen, and spent a few enjoyable laps together.









    This is how to out drag a V8 MG. The Wizard in action

    I think the black rims is hideous.

    Thanks Frans, I hope everybody can now see the snappies
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    Always wanted a photo with a wheel in the air, only just but it is there!
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    Thanks for the pics Johan!! I now have the Aston Martin drag race and the V8 MG on my CV. About that Cortina, I know what you mean because that guy has a weird way of attacking that corner or he is deliberate because I had to avoid him however not as serious as you. He is a new guy in our series but he still has to look in his mirrors.

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    Great set of photos! Well done!!!!!!

    That old Vauxhall in bright green is hideous.
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    Thanks for those photos. Looks great!

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    Great photos. Thanks.

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    Hi John.

    Just looking at your photo and noticing how beautiful the swept area where the brake pads rub is.

    BARNIE's swept area will need a super lot of TLC until I get it like yours. They measures 6.5mm thick and run true. but it's going to take some work to get that shine up again!!

    Cheers
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    Wonderful! And here I am crowing about just fitting braided brake hoses to a standard system. Of course it is just for standard use.....

    A trip to NZ is long overdue!

    Thanks for this fascinating material.

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