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    Hello everybody, just a quick question. Has anyone had experience fitting 185/70 tyres to Renault 16TL R1152.
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    Worried they will scrub on the rear arches?

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    No I haven't, but I have used a 135x380 (15) R10 wheel on the back of my 16TS to get me out of trouble in a rally back in the day....
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    Too wide, also if you want a workout, just go to the gymnasium. It'll be easier than parking the car.
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    For what it's worth, I'd fit 175/70 or 165/70 to an R16 (Continental PremiumContact2 tyres are the best currently available on any parameter of appraisal you care to cite except longevity). These are near identical in gearing to 155/80 & 145/80 respectively.

    Owing to the contact patch shape, neither will increase steering heaviness. 185/70 are legal on a 4.5" rim but I can't see what you'd gain from them & the contact patch becomes large enough to increase steering weight at low speeds.

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    If the rims are:

    4.5 inch I would fit 165 tyres

    5.0 inch I would fit 175 tyres

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    The 185 spare won't fit under the bonnet either

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    Thank you all. I'm impressed by the fervour that you Renault fans have responded. Yes. Looks like 185 is overkill and for no good reason. The car already has these but I've yet to drive. I can remember from many years ago fitting 205s to an Alfasud which totally destroyed the handling and made slow speed steering very un-nibble. Just wondered what the effect might be for a R16. I guess the driving will tell.
    If the STD car came with 145s then legally in Vic can still pass a RW.
    Is fitting less wide tyres to the front whilst keeping the bigger ones on the rear a viable option?
    Any experience on this setup?
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    I have done just this to use some tyres that were too good to throw away. The results were ok, as predictable as you would expect. A bit like a trailer on a racing bicycle. Also a little bit of rub on the handbrake cable

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    In defense of wide wheels, I can't wait to get the 205's back on my 12. Its transformed it! I swear it reduced some body roll too. And made me a more considerate caring lover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balouk View Post
    Hello everybody, just a quick question. Has anyone had experience fitting 185/70 tyres to Renault 16TL R1152.
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    I fitted Bridgestone Supercats 185/70R13 to my Cosmics which I think are 5.5 inch wide. I pressume that's ok. Bridgestone guys were fine with it! Feels good fast around the hills of Nannup on the weekend.
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    A few things:

    It doesn't matter if you can't fit a 185/70 as a spare. Use what you have that fits & don't worry about diff stress from mismatched tyre circumferences as you can avoid that (with a bit more fussing) by only ever fitting the spare to the rear.

    I didn't realise that you had the 185/70s already. As you do, then I can't see why you shouldn't use them. Not an optimal arrangement but not disastrous either. My worry would more be that they might be a crap tyre type or be date-expired. (People fit all sorts of rubbish to save money.)

    Low speed heaviness can be ameliorated by raising the tyre pressures (which lessens the contact patch). Find what seems ok for this at the front & then adjust rear tyre pressures to find the handling balance you wish. (Unless you relish plough-understeer, this will mean lower pressures at the rear.) The R16 is so supple that I can't imagine ride comfort loss from the higher pressures becoming an issue.

    I would emphatically recommend that you do not fit smaller tyres at the front & larger at the rear. This is a recipe for monstrous understeer. If anything, the (default understeering) balance of an R16 would be improved by going the other way & having larger tyres at the front. I have done this to profitable effect in the past on R12s & my Moke. Much the same adjustment to balance can, however, be achieved by tyre pressure differences.

    I don't think that you will get in registration hassles with the 185/70s as they legally fit the rim, have the same offset as the original, don't foul in any circumstances (I assume) & have equal or better speed & load range ratings compared to the original 145/80s.

    cheers! Peter

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    The Citroen CX originally had smaller tyres at the rear, as does mine. I have 175/70 x 14 at the rear if I recall correctly and 185/70 at the front. My spare is a 175 as the 185 doesn't fit in the engine bay! Sounds familiar Peter!

    There's not much space to play with in the rear guards of a 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    There's not much space to play with in the rear guards of a 16.Cheers
    True. I'm surprised anyone can fit 185/70 without rear guard modification. In my experience 175's only just fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarosa View Post
    True. I'm surprised anyone can fit 185/70 without rear guard modification. In my experience 175's only just fit.
    Mind you, Balouk observes: "The car already has these ..." so something might have been done.

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    Many thanks again. Has set me on the "straight & narrow" .... or maybe not so "narrow"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balouk View Post
    Many thanks again. Has set me on the "straight & narrow" .... or maybe not so "narrow"!

    Cheers
    Once you have had a chance to drive for a while in varied conditions on the 185/70s, it'd be interesting to hear how you found them. (And please include advice on tyre date stamp & tyre brand & type.)

    cheers! Peter

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    I thought the originals were 155?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trading Estate View Post
    I thought the originals were 155?
    145/80 for TL & 155/80 for TS is my memory. But read the earlier posts in the thread & you'll see why 185/70 is the focus.

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