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    My 10 is supposed to have a 10S motor. The plate is missing. However it has an R12 head, a 12 auto inlet manifold and a Weber carby that is 32 DIR 21. Normally off an R12GL. Also extractors, as of course, a 12 exhaust manifold won't fit easily. I also think from memory the 12 carby is back to front on my engine. Not sure if this matters. According to my Haynes manuals the jetting is the same for an 8S, and later Caravelle and a 12. I assume a 10S would be similar.

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    What I would like to know is. What is the number of the carby on a 10S? Which way round were they? What was the jetting sizes? But I would also like a copy of a 10S supplement if any one has one they could email. I once had a 10S and thought I had kept all the bits except the trans axle and badges. But so far all I can find is the engine less the manifolds, and the steering wheel and choke cable. I should have the carby some where but I need to identify it.

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    Sunroof,
    All I can offer you here is that the carb float bowl should face in the direction of travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest View Post
    Sunroof,
    All I can offer you here is that the carb float bowl should face in the direction of travel.
    Ditto
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    There should be a number stamped on the block, either on the top face adjacent to the timing cover (heater hose side), or on the vertical face at the LH front corner of the block (flywheel end, manifold side) on the machined surface just above the cast boss.

    A 10S carby is a 32 DIR 4
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    ^^ that's just the engine number though isn't it, not the engine type number?
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    Quote Originally Posted by renault8&10 View Post
    ^^ that's just the engine number though isn't it, not the engine type number?
    Anything will help. There is also an engine type reference in there as well, like A10, A12 and AG on the Renault 10,12 and 8G motors - the number itself will also help. :-)
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    Thanks for all that info guys. There is no number on the top of the engine. I'll check the side. The carby must be the right way around as the fuel bowl does point to the direction of travel. I cannot find a 32 DIR 4 so far but I have found a top with the 4 studs to hold the air filter. The filter on the car when we got it was held on with cable ties and I will change the carby top at least. Still hope to find all the rest of my 10S stuff. But in the last move I gave away so much stuff (or dumped it) that perhaps the 10S dash, carby etc went as well.

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    Sunroof,

    I've got a serviceable 32 DIR 4(a) that should do if you can't find yours. It will be jetted to R12 specs.

    Further to that, I've also got a good collection of various jets. All yours for the price of a cuppa and biscuit.
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    I'll probably have the correct carby, it's even from a 10s. I can check on the weekend if your interested.

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    Thanks G. Do you want me to bring a thermos and biscuits to you, or will you bring Genavieve for a run one day soon? Actually it's time the your Floride had a run.

    Thanks c.lees. I'll check out G's offer first as he is nearby.

    Jets should be the same as a Caravelle if my motor is a 10S, as previous owner said, or a 12 going by inlet manifold and head. I'll check for the engine number first. My Haynes actual says that 12 and Caravelle jets are the same. Wonder what the differences between these different carbs really is. The Caravelle idle jet screws in horizontally and the 12 carby idle jets screw in on an angle. So what does that difference mean? Just done for easier access perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    Thanks G. Do you want me to bring a thermos and biscuits to you, or will you bring Genavieve for a run one day soon? Actually it's time the your Floride had a run.

    Thanks c.lees. I'll check out G's offer first as he is nearby.

    Jets should be the same as a Caravelle if my motor is a 10S, as previous owner said, or a 12 going by inlet manifold and head. I'll check for the engine number first. My Haynes actual says that 12 and Caravelle jets are the same. Wonder what the differences between these different carbs really is. The Caravelle idle jet screws in horizontally and the 12 carby idle jets screw in on an angle. So what does that difference mean? Just done for easier access perhaps.
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    That carby back to front thing you speak of. I remember about 100 years ago a mate put a 12 motor in his 10 and found under hard acceleration it ran out of fuel so he turned the carby round and solved the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    I reckon I could deliver the booty to your door on Sunday morning if you're about..?
    Sounds pretty good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    That carby back to front thing you speak of. I remember about 100 years ago a mate put a 12 motor in his 10 and found under hard acceleration it ran out of fuel so he turned the carby round and solved the problem.
    On my old R12 powered R10, before I turned the carby around, I had the opposite problem. Acceleration was ok but hard braking would induce a stall. Turned it around and all good
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    OK Simon I wonder what your references make of this numbering?

    The motor that according to the previous owner was out of a 10S has:

    AN12S
    10937

    My 10S motor has:

    SO
    28445

    The S is very clear as it is a deep stamp.

    The plate has

    688-09
    28445

    Just interested I guess it doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    The motor that according to the previous owner was out of a 10S has:

    AN12S
    10937
    This one started life as an 842-01, 1974 Renault 12, block.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunroof View Post
    My 10S motor has:

    SO
    28445

    The S is very clear as it is a deep stamp.

    The plate has

    688-09
    28445
    Too easy with this one, an early 10S motor. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-man View Post
    On my old R12 powered R10, before I turned the carby around, I had the opposite problem. Acceleration was ok but hard braking would induce a stall. Turned it around and all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    This one started life as an 842-01, 1974 Renault 12, block.



    Too easy with this one, an early 10S motor. :-)
    The block in my R10S replica, which is still in infancy of the build, as it has been for years is the 688-09. That info is good as to the early 10S designation from Simon.
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    Email on the way....
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    Images sent by email. From Simon originally of course!!

    Cheers
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    hey Mr Sunroof, will you be at home on Thursday this week? would like you to have a look at my Weber for my 10, perhaps if you have the time we could check the jetting?

    BP

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