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    Yep , probably originally were the same name but the Fortitude Valley end was probably excommunicated by the gentry from Spring hill, hence the change from Tce to St. Wickham st Fortitude valley is synonymous with hookers and is a party precinct, a good place for a respectable Reno hugger to stay away from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Is Wickham Tce Brisvegas the same as Wickham St Brisvegas? The Ira Berk Renault showroom was opened at 116 Wickham St in 1951.
    You are a mine of information Simon. Please write the book!
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    I used to stay at Punthill appts in Astor terrace Spring Hill when in Brissie. A block away from Wickham.
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    A fair few years ago a lady I was dating insisted we go to the Wickham hotel nightclub for a look, with some trepidation and concern to my good character I agreed to go. Never again, what an eye opener that was..

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    I'd never have doubted your good character....

    My only venture into "the valley", mentioned in an earlier post, was to a locksmith in 1978. No comments about why! I've done a fair bit in Q'ld over the years but I keep quiet about it usually, as you'd judge by my once knowing the Deen brothers....

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    Yes I am most curious for an elaboration.

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    Next time we meet. It's not as racey as I'd perhaps like...

    Are the Deen brothers still knocking things down? Interesting evening though - they loved telling the story of making sure someone saw them near "interesting" buildings like the Breakfast Creek Hotel, just for the fun of it. That would have been late 1980s I guess.
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    Yes they are still at it, probably run by the younger generation now though. I can imaging their presence near any iconic building would create panic.

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    That was their pleasure as I understood it... You can just imagine! Interesting family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Is Wickham Tce Brisvegas the same as Wickham St Brisvegas? The Ira Berk Renault showroom was opened at 116 Wickham St in 1951.
    Ira Berk add from the era.

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    Default A study in chassis design..

    I don't know much about early Renault chassis but this one should have had a transverse rear spring setup shouldnit? On this example there seems to be some sort of outrigger in placed to allow for regular cart springs. Russell and Sebastian can't quite fathom it either.

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    The Lithgow riot and bosses burnt out prized Renault.

    1911 Lithgow Riot
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    ...I know exactly how it feels to be burned out, know it well actually.

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    And yet another Aussie prewar Renault..



    This must be the type A that JW alluded too elsewhere..

    https://thewest.com.au/lifestyle/mot...-ng-b88600439z

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    The springs on this are 3/4 elliptic, which was a popular arrangement on quality cars of the era ( RR Silver Ghost had them until change to cantilevers in 1912-1913)

    Not a common arrangement since then, so this may allow progress in identification - it may have been "as designed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    I don't know much about early Renault chassis but this one should have had a transverse rear spring setup shouldnit? On this example there seems to be some sort of outrigger in placed to allow for regular cart springs. Russell and Sebastian can't quite fathom it either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    And yet another Aussie prewar Renault.. This must be the type A that JW alluded too elsewhere.. https://thewest.com.au/lifestyle/mot...-ng-b88600439z
    Yup. Perhaps best, if unfairly described (my words) as a De Dion tricycle with a back axle and an overgrown lathe gearbox. It's one of perhaps 5 or 6 of the first Renault model surviving anywhere on the planet - a 1898 Type A. It's pre-Boer war too......

    I've ridden on it (on not in) and it's due home soon! Regarding the photo, I really wanted to get a Scenic there too, so we had a whole century of passenger car evolution by Renault. But you get me instead of the Scenic....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Watkins View Post
    The springs on this are 3/4 elliptic, which was a popular arrangement on quality cars of the era ( RR Silver Ghost had them until change to cantilevers in 1912-1913)

    Not a common arrangement since then, so this may allow progress in identification - it may have been "as designed"

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    Quite right Andrew, this Renault from 1910 has the same setup..

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    Icon14 16/20 Renault.

    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    The Lithgow riot and bosses burnt out prized Renault.

    1911 Lithgow Riot
    The text says that it WAS a brand new Renault 16/20 which suggests it was probably a 1910 manufacture and imported and registered in 1911 and even then it was general knowledge that Renault owners loved their motor cars.

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    Riveting stuff I know, I wonder if this was the biscuit.

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    That buiscuit appears on here (scroll down until you get to it) :- Les Renault d'avant guerre :: 2016 - 05 Losange Passion International - Montlhéry, samedi 21 mai 2016

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    and the post is titled - "Post subject: 2016 - 05 Losange Passion International "

    There are addittional photosfrom the Losange Passion International here - Losange Passion International le 21 mai 2016 les photos - blog pour la mémoire de l'autodrome

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    Ah, what a weekend that was! According to my photos, that car is a Type CE, I think 1913 vintage. It was bought originally by a coal mine owner in the north of England, and sold by the family, if I recall, in about 1947. After several owners it was purchased in France and returned there in recent years. I travelled to the event in the car. Quite an experience!
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    Shell filling station at Blashford, Hampshire, England, 1930 and a 1925(ish) Renault NN

    I'm not overly convinced that this servo would meet the fire code of today.

    I'm not overly sure the car would either as the gravity fed fuel tank is in the drivers cabin behind the dash.

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    Here's another period shot of an NN or similar..pre-1925 at least.

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    I suspect too big for an NN but a lovely car. Look at the size of the front brake drums!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I suspect too big for an NN but a lovely car. Look at the size of the front brake drums!

    Yes I did notice the brake drums but don't know what else to call the car.

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